On 2018-05-04 9:32 AM, Gunnar
Wagenknecht wrote:
I'm
trying to find an anchor that will help us break up the issue. It
seems we are stuck in this cycle: we can't change the name - it's
too complex - look at all the artifacts and things - oh so lets
break it up and look at those - no we don't want to change them -
so back to the name - but all the things.... tbc
Could we take a step back for a moment?
In addition to straightening out the name for the simultaneous
release, we also need to come up with a new name for the Eclipse
top-level project so that it conforms to the usual trademark
guidelines that apply to all Eclipse projects. Is there perhaps at
least a small chance that naming the simrel would become easier if
we had a name for the project upon which most of the simrel is
based? If the Eclipse Project decides to rename itself the Eclipse
Quark project, then wouldn't have an influence on the discussion
here? (I am not sure if Dani was joking about the "Q" name, but it
is not an inherently bad idea.)
I sort of have a hunch that maybe we've put the cart before the
horse. Note that I am not saying that the name of the
top-level project would automatically become the brand we use for
the desktop IDE or the simrel. All I'm saying is that having the
name of the TLP might provide the anchor that Gunnar was looking
for.
FWIW, this quote from Nick Boldt really resonated with me: "Call
it what you will, it's still the quarterly desktop IDE release
train."
Which is why calling the simrel "Eclipse Desktop Platform
09-2018" or "Eclipse Quark(*) 09-2018" or even "Eclipse Code(*)
09-2018" would all be fine IMO. Anything that makes it sound like
it encompasses everything at the Eclipse Foundation (e.g. "Eclipse
09-2018") is not okay.
(*) pending trademark review and approval