Hi Cristiano,
Yes, our existing ECF releng is currently done with
Buckminster+Maven+PDE+Hudson...but what we're talking about here
(Android libs from ECF codebase) is mostly what I would consider in
the category of 'new' packaging and releng...and so doesn't
require/imply any particular technology (IMHO). Sure...there could
be some integration with what's there...but that's usually the case
for releng...is my observation.
Scott
On 6/12/2012 12:27 PM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Scott,
Perhaps I didn't understand well your wish and/or perhaps don't
understand what you mean about releng... But if were about to do
something related to ECF's Buckminster, honestly is out of my
knowledge...
Cristiano
On 12/06/12 16:10, Scott Lewis wrote:
Hi Christiano,
I'm not sure if knowing Maven and Tycho really limits you
(there's no particular requirement on what build tech is
required/necessary to do this)...but ok.
Scott
On 6/12/2012 12:05 PM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Well,
Unfortunately I will not be able to help you with this releng
task because the unique build tool that I'm know well is Maven
and in the last couple years, Tycho.
cheers,
Cristiano
On 12/06/12 15:47, Scott Lewis wrote:
Christiano,
Regrettably, I haven't been able to keep these example/test
apps maintained as ECF has moved forward.
My intention/desire these days is to work on the releng such
that new versions of ECF could be automatically packaged for
Android usage (for client and/or server for some
protocols)...but like many other things, it remains a little
out of reach (for resources/time)...at the moment.
Scott
On 6/12/2012 11:41 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi Scott,
I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because
there were some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't
resolve in my short study time...
But I'll try again tomorrow...
thanks,
Cristiano
On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
Hi Christiano,
Those are some of my early experiments. The goals
were to make some simple/test android clients...that use
ECF for communication.
Scott
On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi,
I've found this project on github:
https://github.com/ECF/Android
Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of
this project?
thanks,
Cristiano
On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
Christiano,
On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi guys,
I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
and there is a nice video of one android app using
ECF and Google Wave.
Google wave was discontinued, so what is the
alternative in actual days for this kind of mobile
applications ?
So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian
Schmidt) used some of the ECF core classes...and, in
fact whole plugins/jars...to support the Wave
provider work [1]. These plugins/classes...and
their runtime class dependencies...were added to the
Android projects as library jars (I think)...and so
were loaded/used at runtime without actually running
a complete OSGi framework.
Running outside of OSGi is something that can be
done with much...although not all...of ECF. I do
this myself with other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared
object API)...in order to make it simple to create
Android-based clients that can easily and extensibly
communicate/message with ECF servers/services (that
happen to run under a full OSGi framework).
There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng
associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a
non-OSGi environment. For example, the creation of
the non-bundle jars and the elimination of the
unneeded classes from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would
be very desirable for this usage...along with
creating a single distribution-ready Android
library...rather than several jars. Doing these
things would make it much easier for people to
consume/use ECF in Android environments.
One other point...although Google wave was
discontinued as an application, I suspect Google
would like to continue to use (and have others use)
the wave protocol...i.e. [2]. This was the work
upon which [1] is based, so I don't think this is
completely out of the technical picture (although
the Wave application is indeed discontinued). But
I'm not directly connected with the Wave protocol
work these days...so I could be wrong on this.
Scott
[1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
[2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/
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