| Hi Christiano, 
 I'm not sure if knowing Maven and Tycho really limits you (there's
    no particular requirement on what build tech is required/necessary
    to do this)...but ok.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 12:05 PM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
      
      Well, Unfortunately I will not be able to help you with this releng task
      because the unique build tool that I'm know well is Maven and in
      the last couple years, Tycho.
 
 cheers,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:47, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
        
        Christiano,
 Regrettably, I haven't been able to keep these example/test apps
        maintained as ECF has moved forward.
 
 My intention/desire these days is to work on the releng such
        that new versions of ECF could be automatically packaged for
        Android usage (for client and/or server for some
        protocols)...but like many other things, it remains a little out
        of reach (for resources/time)...at the moment.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 11:41 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
          
          Hi Scott,
 I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because there
          were some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't resolve in
          my short study time...
 
 But I'll try again tomorrow...
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
            
            Hi Christiano,
 Those are some of my early experiments.    The goals were to
            make some simple/test android clients...that use ECF for
            communication.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
              
              Hi, 
 I've found this project on github:
              
              
              https://github.com/ECF/Android
 
 Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of this
              project?
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
 Christiano, 
 On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
 Hi guys, 
 I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
 and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF
                  and Google Wave.
 
 Google wave was discontinued, so what is the
                  alternative in actual days for this kind of mobile
                  applications ?
 
 So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt)
                used some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole
                plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1]. 
                These plugins/classes...and their runtime class
                dependencies...were added to the Android projects as
                library jars (I think)...and so were loaded/used at
                runtime without actually running a complete OSGi
                framework.
 
 Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done
                with much...although not all...of ECF.   I do this
                myself with other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object
                API)...in order to make it simple to create
                Android-based clients that can easily and extensibly
                communicate/message with ECF servers/services (that
                happen to run under a full OSGi framework).
 
 There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng
                associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a
                non-OSGi environment.  For example, the creation of the
                non-bundle jars and the elimination of the unneeded
                classes from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would be very
                desirable for this usage...along with creating a single
                distribution-ready Android library...rather than several
                jars.  Doing these things would make it much easier for
                people to consume/use ECF in Android environments.
 
 One other point...although Google wave was discontinued
                as an application, I suspect Google would like to
                continue to use (and have others use) the wave
                protocol...i.e. [2].  This was the work upon which [1]
                is based, so I don't think this is completely out of the
                technical picture (although the Wave application is
                indeed discontinued).  But I'm not directly connected
                with the Wave protocol work these days...so I could be
                wrong on this.
 
 Scott
 
 [1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
 [2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/
 
 
 
 
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