| Well, Unfortunately I will not be able to help you with this releng task
    because the unique build tool that I'm know well is Maven and in the
    last couple years, Tycho.
 
 cheers,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:47, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
      
      Christiano,
 Regrettably, I haven't been able to keep these example/test apps
      maintained as ECF has moved forward.
 
 My intention/desire these days is to work on the releng such that
      new versions of ECF could be automatically packaged for Android
      usage (for client and/or server for some protocols)...but like
      many other things, it remains a little out of reach (for
      resources/time)...at the moment.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 11:41 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
        
        Hi Scott,
 I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because there
        were some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't resolve in my
        short study time...
 
 But I'll try again tomorrow...
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
          
          Hi Christiano,
 Those are some of my early experiments.    The goals were to
          make some simple/test android clients...that use ECF for
          communication.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
            
            Hi, 
 I've found this project on github:
            
            
            https://github.com/ECF/Android
 
 Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of this
            project?
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
 Christiano, 
 On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
 Hi guys, 
 I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
 and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF
                and Google Wave.
 
 Google wave was discontinued, so what is the alternative
                in actual days for this kind of mobile applications ?
 
 So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt)
              used some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole
              plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1]. 
              These plugins/classes...and their runtime class
              dependencies...were added to the Android projects as
              library jars (I think)...and so were loaded/used at
              runtime without actually running a complete OSGi
              framework.
 
 Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done with
              much...although not all...of ECF.   I do this myself with
              other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object API)...in order
              to make it simple to create Android-based clients that can
              easily and extensibly communicate/message with ECF
              servers/services (that happen to run under a full OSGi
              framework).
 
 There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng
              associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a
              non-OSGi environment.  For example, the creation of the
              non-bundle jars and the elimination of the unneeded
              classes from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would be very
              desirable for this usage...along with creating a single
              distribution-ready Android library...rather than several
              jars.  Doing these things would make it much easier for
              people to consume/use ECF in Android environments.
 
 One other point...although Google wave was discontinued as
              an application, I suspect Google would like to continue to
              use (and have others use) the wave protocol...i.e. [2]. 
              This was the work upon which [1] is based, so I don't
              think this is completely out of the technical picture
              (although the Wave application is indeed discontinued). 
              But I'm not directly connected with the Wave protocol work
              these days...so I could be wrong on this.
 
 Scott
 
 [1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
 [2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/
 
 
 
 
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