| Hi Scott, 
 I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because there were
    some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't resolve in my short
    study time...
 
 But I'll try again tomorrow...
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
      
      Hi Christiano,
 Those are some of my early experiments.    The goals were to make
      some simple/test android clients...that use ECF for communication.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
        
        Hi, 
 I've found this project on github:
        
        
        https://github.com/ECF/Android
 
 Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of this
        project?
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
 Christiano, 
 On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
 Hi guys, 
 I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
 and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF and
            Google Wave.
 
 Google wave was discontinued, so what is the alternative in
            actual days for this kind of mobile applications ?
 
 So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt) used
          some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole
          plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1].  These
          plugins/classes...and their runtime class dependencies...were
          added to the Android projects as library jars (I think)...and
          so were loaded/used at runtime without actually running a
          complete OSGi framework.
 
 Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done with
          much...although not all...of ECF.   I do this myself with
          other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object API)...in order to
          make it simple to create Android-based clients that can easily
          and extensibly communicate/message with ECF servers/services
          (that happen to run under a full OSGi framework).
 
 There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng associated
          with using the relevant parts of ECF in a non-OSGi
          environment.  For example, the creation of the non-bundle jars
          and the elimination of the unneeded classes from ECF, OSGi,
          and Equinox would be very desirable for this usage...along
          with creating a single distribution-ready Android
          library...rather than several jars.  Doing these things would
          make it much easier for people to consume/use ECF in Android
          environments.
 
 One other point...although Google wave was discontinued as an
          application, I suspect Google would like to continue to use
          (and have others use) the wave protocol...i.e. [2].  This was
          the work upon which [1] is based, so I don't think this is
          completely out of the technical picture (although the Wave
          application is indeed discontinued).  But I'm not directly
          connected with the Wave protocol work these days...so I could
          be wrong on this.
 
 Scott
 
 [1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
 [2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/
 
 
 
 
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