| Christiano, 
 Regrettably, I haven't been able to keep these example/test apps
    maintained as ECF has moved forward.
 
 My intention/desire these days is to work on the releng such that
    new versions of ECF could be automatically packaged for Android
    usage (for client and/or server for some protocols)...but like many
    other things, it remains a little out of reach (for
    resources/time)...at the moment.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 11:41 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
      
      Hi Scott,
 I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because there were
      some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't resolve in my short
      study time...
 
 But I'll try again tomorrow...
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
 
        
        Hi Christiano,
 Those are some of my early experiments.    The goals were to
        make some simple/test android clients...that use ECF for
        communication.
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
          
          Hi, 
 I've found this project on github:
          
          
          https://github.com/ECF/Android
 
 Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of this
          project?
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Cristiano
 
 On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
 Christiano, 
 On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
 
 Hi guys, 
 I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
 and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF and
              Google Wave.
 
 Google wave was discontinued, so what is the alternative
              in actual days for this kind of mobile applications ?
 
 So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt)
            used some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole
            plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1].  These
            plugins/classes...and their runtime class
            dependencies...were added to the Android projects as library
            jars (I think)...and so were loaded/used at runtime without
            actually running a complete OSGi framework.
 
 Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done with
            much...although not all...of ECF.   I do this myself with
            other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object API)...in order
            to make it simple to create Android-based clients that can
            easily and extensibly communicate/message with ECF
            servers/services (that happen to run under a full OSGi
            framework).
 
 There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng
            associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a
            non-OSGi environment.  For example, the creation of the
            non-bundle jars and the elimination of the unneeded classes
            from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would be very desirable for this
            usage...along with creating a single distribution-ready
            Android library...rather than several jars.  Doing these
            things would make it much easier for people to consume/use
            ECF in Android environments.
 
 One other point...although Google wave was discontinued as
            an application, I suspect Google would like to continue to
            use (and have others use) the wave protocol...i.e. [2]. 
            This was the work upon which [1] is based, so I don't think
            this is completely out of the technical picture (although
            the Wave application is indeed discontinued).  But I'm not
            directly connected with the Wave protocol work these
            days...so I could be wrong on this.
 
 Scott
 
 [1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
 [2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/
 
 
 
 
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