| Re: [hudson-dev] Mobile responsivness |
Welcome back. Pure is a CSS-only framework that I think has basic components with maximal customizability. It is hosted on GitHub https://github.com/yahoo/pure and we can regenerate CSS files ourselves, but I feel pre-generated CSSs are enough to use with addition of several custom CSS rules. I have not tried it in Hudson yet but I will do it anyway soon.
Back from vacation now.With the Eclipse CQ process there are two factors - one is the license and the second is the code provenance. Can it be determined exactly who wrote this code and who may have a stake in it. If a brand new library is asked for then the Eclipse legal folks will probably want to get in touch with the authors of the code to confirm all that stuff.I’ll be happy to submit CQs once you’ve determined that a particular set of libraries is going to tick your boxes, we should probably try and get approval sooner rather than later :-)Duncan
On 13 Aug 2015, at 17:03, Winston Prakash <winston.prakash@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Unfortunately I don't know the answer. Duncan does all the CQ process for Hudson third party libraries and Framework (I guess he is on vacation).
I did a search at Eclipse IPzilla for per-approved CQs for
- Twitter Bootstrap
- Zurb Foundation
- Yahoo PureCss
I found only approval for Twitter Bootstrap
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That doesn't mean we can't get approval for other Frameworks. It will take a while though. So feel free to experiment with purecss.
- Winston
This is the license terms applied to Pure. Do you think it can be rejected?
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:31 PM Winston Prakash <winston.prakash@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When it comes to software License, Eclipse is very picky. Any library or framework we use in Hudson need to under go an approval process. Before we include any framework in the final release, a CQ (https://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/Contribution_Questionnaire) need to be filed and get approved.
- WInston
In addition to Foundation and Skeleton mentioned previously, I found another one, Pure <http://purecss.io/> today. It offers 1/5-based grid in addition to 1/24-based one, and it is quite small (17 KB minified compared to 120 KB of Bootstrap) while offering common components like tables, menus, buttons, etc. It looks quite young but it could be more widely used in the future as it is made by Yahoo. It does not use _javascript_ at all but it can be extended or combined with scripts, and It is licensed under the 3-clause BSD License instead of the MIT as the former ones. It is provided in several modules and we can use only the modules we need while we can still use all-in-one file (it is still 17 KB). I like its modular design and small footprint, so I will experiment a small number of page design with it.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:39 PM Winston Prakash <winston.prakash@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know about both Bootstrap and Foundation. I never used Skeleton. In another project, I started out with Foundation. It is an excellent framework. Eventually I switched to Bootstrap because of some issues in Foundation 5 and couldn't find documentation or forum support to resolve them.
- Winston
Finally in regard to mobile usability, Foundation and Skeleton uses larger default line height (160%) than Bootstrap does (140%). It would make it easier to tap linked text on small devices. It is one of the good points of the two, I think.Skeleton, on the other hand, is more primitive and smaller in CSS file size (1/10 even without minimization) but still has grid-based layout responsiveness, and is also licensed by the MIT License. As it is smaller than Bootstrap or Foundation, It has fewer components but basic HTML elements, and doesn't use _javascript_, either. If we want to customize our UI heavily, it might be most flexible since it is pure CSS without any preprocessor like Less or Sass.I searched for other CSS-centric web frameworks than Bootstrap and found Foundation <http://foundation.zurb.com/> and Skeleton <http://getskeleton.com/>.Foundation is similar to Bootstrap in concept and is also licensed by the MIT License. Its CSS file is a bit larger than Bootstrap but it wouldn't be a big problem IMO. It seems as widely used as Bootstrap is and it might be an alternative to Bootstrap if we don't need glyphicons at all.
It is a combination of _javascript_ and CSS. _javascript_ is needed only for advanced use. Once you are ready, let me know, I'll explain where to apply the changes. Mean while you might want to read the document I put together several years ago to get an understanding of how Hudson UI is generated.
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Hudson-ci/documentation#Hudson_Architecture_Documents
(both Web/REST and View architectures may be useful)
- Winston
I just learned Bootstrap is mostly implemented in CSS. It looks very easy to use it in any websites so I will try it myself before experimenting it with Hudson. Thank you for the helpful information.
OK, though I am not familiar with Bootstrap at all, I will take a look into it for a long-term solution.
Hi Kaz,
Sure you can work on the short term solution. For long term let us use Bootstrap. Hudson does not use Spring. It has proprietary UI and REST framework. Hudson UI can accommodate third party Layout framework like Bootstrap.
Thanks,
Winston
I am just thinking of a short-term solution yet. For a long-term solution, I am not sure which framework is good for future versions of Hudson.
If Hudson is already using the Spring framework, I think Spring Mobile <http://projects.spring.io/spring-mobile/> might have less impact on the current structure. Anyway, I must start from studying the current Hudson codebase.
Hi Kaz,
Excellent. For some time I've been debating about changing Hudson page layout to Bootstrap 3, which if done correctly will automatically take care of mobile usability. Do you have any framework in mind?. Otherwise I will highly recommend to use Bootstrap.
I'll create a branch for you.
- Winston_____
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