Back from vacation now.
With the Eclipse CQ process there are two factors - one is the license and the second is the code provenance. Can it be determined exactly who wrote this code and who may have a stake in it. If a brand new library is asked for then the Eclipse legal folks will probably want to get in touch with the authors of the code to confirm all that stuff.
I’ll be happy to submit CQs once you’ve determined that a particular set of libraries is going to tick your boxes, we should probably try and get approval sooner rather than later :-)
Duncan
Unfortunately I don't know the answer.
Duncan does all the CQ process for Hudson third party libraries
and Framework (I guess he is on vacation).
I did a search at Eclipse IPzilla for per-approved CQs for
- Twitter Bootstrap
- Zurb Foundation
- Yahoo PureCss
I found only approval for Twitter Bootstrap
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That doesn't mean we can't get approval for other Frameworks. It
will take a while though. So feel free to experiment with purecss.
- Winston
This is the license terms applied to Pure. Do you
think it can be rejected?
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In addition to Foundation and Skeleton
mentioned previously, I found another one, Pure < http://purecss.io/> today. It
offers 1/5-based grid in addition to 1/24-based one, and
it is quite small (17 KB minified compared to 120 KB of
Bootstrap) while offering common components like tables,
menus, buttons, etc. It looks quite young but it could
be more widely used in the future as it is made by
Yahoo. It does not use _javascript_ at all but it can be
extended or combined with scripts, and It is licensed
under the 3-clause BSD License instead of the MIT as the
former ones. It is provided in several modules and we
can use only the modules we need while we can still use
all-in-one file (it is still 17 KB). I like its modular
design and small footprint, so I will experiment a small
number of page design with it.
I know about both Bootstrap and Foundation. I
never used Skeleton. In another project, I started
out with Foundation. It is an excellent framework.
Eventually I switched to Bootstrap because of some
issues in Foundation 5 and couldn't find
documentation or forum support to resolve them.
Foundation is similar to Bootstrap in
concept and is also licensed by the MIT
License. Its CSS file is a bit larger than
Bootstrap but it wouldn't be a big problem
IMO. It seems as widely used as Bootstrap
is and it might be an alternative to
Bootstrap if we don't need glyphicons at
all.
Skeleton, on the other hand, is more primitive
and smaller in CSS file size (1/10 even
without minimization) but still has grid-based
layout responsiveness, and is also licensed by
the MIT License. As it is smaller than
Bootstrap or Foundation, It has fewer
components but basic HTML elements, and
doesn't use _javascript_, either. If we want to
customize our UI heavily, it might be most
flexible since it is pure CSS without any
preprocessor like Less or Sass.
Finally in regard to mobile usability,
Foundation and Skeleton uses larger default line
height (160%) than Bootstrap does (140%). It
would make it easier to tap linked text on small
devices. It is one of the good points of the
two, I think.
It is a combination of
_javascript_ and CSS. _javascript_
is needed only for advanced use.
Once you are ready, let me know,
I'll explain where to apply the
changes. Mean while you might
want to read the document I put
together several years ago to
get an understanding of how
Hudson UI is generated.
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Hudson-ci/documentation#Hudson_Architecture_Documents
(both Web/REST and View
architectures may be useful)
I just learned
Bootstrap is mostly
implemented in CSS. It looks
very easy to use it in any
websites so I will try it
myself before experimenting it
with Hudson. Thank you for
the helpful information.
OK, though I
am not familiar with
Bootstrap at all, I will
take a look into it for a
long-term solution.
Hi Kaz,
Sure you can work on
the short term
solution. For long
term let us use
Bootstrap. Hudson
does not use Spring.
It has proprietary
UI and REST
framework. Hudson UI
can accommodate
third party Layout
framework like
Bootstrap.
Thanks,
Winston
I am
just thinking of a
short-term
solution yet. For
a long-term
solution, I am not
sure which
framework is good
for future
versions of
Hudson. If
Hudson is already
using the Spring
framework, I think
Spring Mobile <http://projects.spring.io/spring-mobile/>
might have less
impact on the
current structure.
Anyway, I must
start from
studying the
current Hudson
codebase.
Hi Kaz,
Excellent. For
some time I've
been debating
about changing
Hudson page
layout to
Bootstrap 3,
which if done
correctly will
automatically
take care of
mobile
usability. Do
you have any
framework in
mind?.
Otherwise I
will highly
recommend to
use Bootstrap.
I'll create a
branch for
you.
- Winston
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