On Nov 24, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Schaefer, Doug wrote: I wonder about the Mylin talk below. Could this be considered ALM? Although it seems more like a tooling talk.
I'm ok with not having it.
We also talked about the YAKINDU talk at the meeting. As Sven mentioned and confirm with my modeling background, statecharts are really the only useful visual modeling paradigm J. But it’s sitting below 3.2 which makes me uncomfortable (unless it happens to climb ;)).
Yes, as I said during the call. The technology is very good and advanced and they solve real problems in the embedded domain. Also it's open-source and they even want to move it to Eclipse. So given that we have too few talks in embedded and modeling, this might be a good choice.
I already gave all I have :-)
Sven
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Subject: Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] 5's On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Ian Skerrett wrote: Modeling
- I am a bit concerned we have only 4 talks selected out of the modeling track. Sven can you please make sure we have a balance across all Eclipse modeling. :-)
I thought we agreed on including up to 3.25 votes. Jan gave that talk also at EclipseCon and it was totally crowded. He's a great speaker and he has a lot to say about that topic. I like this one, since although as modeling talk it's rather code centric and it discusses the heavy use of singletons in EMF. Might be bit controversial, which is good. Not 3.25 and not my cup of tea, but well known presenters : If we'd include those three we would have 16 including the early pick. I think that's fair given the initially allocated 20 talks
DSL
- Wow there are some great talks there :-)
I hope this helps.
Ian
On 11/23/2011 6:15 PM, Schaefer, Doug wrote:
Definitely and I don’t want it to have so much weight that we trade off good talks with marginal talks. I am putting a PC tag called ‘in1’ on all the talks that currently make the cut. You can filter on that keyword and see the list. Right this minute there are 73 based on our discussions this morning. Once we filter out duplicates and speaker overload and topic overload we may even have room to add one or two more. I’ll keep tweaking the list as we go. And we’ll bring up talks to add and remove from that list here. Please don’t add or remove the tag yourselves. Thanks for all the hard work gang. We’re doing pretty good. And have a great Thanksgiving to our American friends! Doug. fwiw, the specifically labeled the allocation 'rough' since I expected it not to be exact.
On 11/23/2011 1:49 PM, John Arthorne wrote: I guess in the end we can only pick 63, given the five early birds and two director picks. Also note your list has 20 for tools/other but Ian's only had 18.
Based on our review today of the available submissions, I definitely think we need to give more to Tools. I'll just throw out how I would allocate FWIW, based on the submissions we have (obviously Doug and Ian have the final say here). Basically this removes 4 from modelling, 2 from mobile, and gives 6 more to tools/other.
Modelling - 15 + 1 early bird
Platform - 9 + 1 early bird
Mobile - 8
Tools/Other - 22 + 2 early bird
RT - 9 + 1 early bird
John
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BTW, here’s the breakdown by category of talks with > 3.5. Modelling – 8 / 20 Platform – 8 / 10 Mobile – 3 / 10 Tools, Comm, Cool – 37 / 20 Eclipse RT – 7 / 10 From: eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
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Subject: Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] 5's Agreed, and we have already started the horse trading. By five, I mean talks with a five vote but has been dragged down by a number of 2 and 3 votes. I’m just trying to figure out what that means. We’ll go through some examples at the meeting. Doug. From: eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Aniszczyk
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Subject: Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] 5's On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Schaefer, Doug < Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It’s easy to look yourselves. Just sort by PC Vote and see what the top 63 are. Right now there’s a big tie at 3.5. And we’re heavy in Tools and light in most of the others, which is pretty normal since Tools is a grab bag. I’m still munching through some things to see how I want to present the list. I’ll set up a webex for the meeting and we can look together. Last year we went through the "5's" fairly quickly. It was difficult to get the last 25% or so talks finalized... but that's always how it is. I think people should be prepared to do some horse-trading if they have some talks they really want to get in. -- Cheers, Chris Aniszczyk
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