Martin,
My apologies. I worded my email poorly.
As you guessed, my comments were only directed at #3, where the
AC removes dormant members. You definitely do not need permission to
create a “dormant” status tag.
From: Oberhuber, Martin
[mailto:Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM
To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Inactive EAC Members
Process
Hi Mike,
I'm not sure if I can follow you.
The idea of a "dormant" status was in order to get an
accurate list of active members,
even though some members can not be removed. So, we are not talking
about changes
of membership here, but just about a "status tag" helping
our internal operation, to see
what members are actually active.
I thought that the step which allows removing dormant appointed
members after 1 year
of inactivity were consistent with the EAC charter [1],
which used to talk about the
AC being able to remove members disruptive to its business, but
that page seems to
have gone magically since I last checked it 3 weeks ago. Also, the
development process [2]
now suddenly talks about 2-year renewable membership rather than 3
years.
I'm a bit confused by the recent change that I see in those
documents, is there a
way I can get notified about such changes?
Anyways, if your comment is just about the AC not being able to
remove members
itself, but having to recommend members-to-remove to the EMO(ED),
I'm totally
fine with it.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of
Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From:
eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
Milinkovich
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:54 PM
To: 'eclipse.org-architecture-council'
Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Inactive EAC Members
Process
To be consistent with the Bylaws, this (excellent) proposal
needs to reflect that the membership in the EAC is by virtue of representing a
PMC, a strategic developer member or appointed by the Executive Director.
(Please see Section 7.2 of the Bylaws.)
I think that this can easily be done by simply adding a step
where changes to the EAC membership list are approved by the Executive
Director.
From:
eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber,
Martin
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:52 AM
To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Inactive EAC Members Process
In
order to get a better handle on what members of the EAC are
actually
active, I'd like to propose the following:
- We
add an "EAC
Member (dormant)" status similar to the Committer
Emeritus status. Dormant members do not take part in active discussions,
but retain their right to take part (because they represent a Strategic
Member Company or a PMC, or have been appointed but don't currently have
time). Dormant members get separately listed on the councils
page.
- Members
enter the dormant
status after 3 months of inactivity (counting mailing list
submissions, and meeting attendance), or at their personal request (such
as a person taking a sabbatical, for instance). We might want to discuss
whether dormant members can actually still mentor any project or not.
- Appointed
members get removed
after 1 year in the dormant status (members representing a
strategic member, or PMC can not be removed).
In
order to track meeting attendance, I have edited the Aug
14 meeting notes, adding a "No Answer" section which lists those
people who have not yet said whether they were at the meeting or not. Attendee
and non-attendee lists are now sorted alphabetically for easier maintenance.
Note that for future meetings, just clicking the "Yes" or
"No" link of the Google Calendar Invitation will be sufficient to
express attendance or non-attendance.
For
this time, I'd like to ask those on the following list, who are still
interested in the Council, to edit
the Wiki page, or let me know by private mail whether they were
actually at the meeting or not: Chris Aniszczyk, Wayne Beaton,
Adrian Colyer, Naci Dai, Timothy Deboer, John Duimovich, John Graham, Kevin
Haaland, Thomas Hallgren, Jochen Krause, Wenfeng Li, Mike Milinkovich, Philippe
Mulet, Georg Schmidt, Mark Vandenbrink, David Williams, Andrew Young.
In
order to make the proposed process (at least a little bit) automated, I'm
wondering whether Bjorn's Project Dash / Committer Activity Meter could be
beefed up to count EAC Mailing List submissions, and get the meeting attendance
list fed in manually somehow?
In
general, when a person is about to become dormant, I guess I'd prefer trying to
see whether it's possible to motivate the person to become active again. On the
other hand, we have a lot of excellent, bright people on the projects who could
be freshly nominated into the EAC. As mentioned during the meeting, nominations
can be made by a simple E-Mail to the mailing list.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of
Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
|
