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Hi Mike,
I'm not sure if I can follow you.
The idea of a "dormant" status was in order to get an
accurate list of active members,
even though some members can not be removed. So, we are not
talking about changes
of membership here, but just about a "status tag" helping
our internal operation, to see
what members are actually active.
I thought that the step which allows removing dormant
appointed members after 1 year
of inactivity were consistent with the EAC charter [1], which
used to talk about the
AC being able to remove members disruptive to its business,
but that page seems to
have gone magically
since I last checked it 3 weeks ago. Also, the development process
[2]
now suddenly talks about 2-year renewable membership rather
than 3 years.
I'm a bit confused by the recent change that I see in those
documents, is there a
way I
can get notified about such
changes?
Anyways, if your comment is
just about the AC not being able to remove members
itself, but having to
recommend members-to-remove to the EMO(ED), I'm
totally
fine with
it.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
To
be consistent with the Bylaws, this (excellent) proposal needs to reflect that
the membership in the EAC is by virtue of representing a PMC, a strategic
developer member or appointed by the Executive Director. (Please see Section
7.2 of the Bylaws.)
I
think that this can easily be done by simply adding a step where changes to
the EAC membership list are approved by the Executive
Director.
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To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject:
[eclipse.org-architecture-council] Inactive EAC Members
Process
In order to get a
better handle on what members of the EAC are
actually active,
I'd like to propose the following:
- We add an
"EAC Member
(dormant)" status similar to the Committer Emeritus status.
Dormant members do not take part in active discussions, but retain their
right to take part (because they represent a Strategic Member Company or a
PMC, or have been appointed but don't currently have time). Dormant members
get separately listed on the councils
page.
- Members
enter the dormant
status after 3 months of inactivity (counting mailing list
submissions, and meeting attendance), or at their personal request (such as
a person taking a sabbatical, for instance). We might want to discuss
whether dormant members can actually still mentor any project or
not.
- Appointed members
get removed after 1
year in the dormant status (members representing a strategic
member, or PMC can not be removed).
In order to track
meeting attendance, I have edited the Aug
14 meeting notes, adding a "No Answer" section which lists those people
who have not yet said whether they were at the meeting or not. Attendee and
non-attendee lists are now sorted alphabetically for easier maintenance. Note
that for future meetings, just clicking the "Yes" or "No" link of the Google
Calendar Invitation will be sufficient to express attendance or
non-attendance.
For this time, I'd
like to ask those on the following list, who are still interested in the
Council, to edit
the Wiki page, or let me know by private mail whether they were
actually at the meeting or not: Chris Aniszczyk, Wayne Beaton,
Adrian Colyer, Naci Dai, Timothy Deboer, John Duimovich, John Graham, Kevin
Haaland, Thomas Hallgren, Jochen Krause, Wenfeng Li, Mike Milinkovich,
Philippe Mulet, Georg Schmidt, Mark Vandenbrink, David Williams, Andrew
Young.
In order to make
the proposed process (at least a little bit) automated, I'm wondering whether
Bjorn's Project Dash / Committer Activity Meter could be beefed up to count
EAC Mailing List submissions, and get the meeting attendance list fed in
manually somehow?
In general, when a
person is about to become dormant, I guess I'd prefer trying to see whether
it's possible to motivate the person to become active again. On the other
hand, we have a lot of excellent, bright people on the projects who could be
freshly nominated into the EAC. As mentioned during the meeting, nominations
can be made by a simple E-Mail to the mailing
list.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber,
Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind
River
Target
Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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