| Re: [technology-pmc] Termination candidate: Eclipse Babel |
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I see this a bit more pragmatic Ed.You're not suggesting that I'm not pragmatic are you? :-P
Yes, this project has been an IDE WG topic a number of times in the past. There were plans to revive things, and then those plans died again. Some I'm asking the members to take into account that this time it's being terminate, not just further neglected.
The project hasn't had any release since 2023. The last mailing list activity is from 2024. Thus, I think it's ok to assume that the project is dead and termination is ok to happen.
As you might imagine, I do know how archiving works. I also know for a fact that there are actual consumers who will miss the p2 update sites going offline. Of course, it definitely appears that no one cares enough to actually life a finger. And of course the content could be revived in a different from in a another project, e.g., SimRel.
FWIW, the source code is not killed. Its archive will remain available. Any project willing to take this on can just import the code. However, I don't think we need to have the overhead of running a separate project for this. Especially when there is evidence that no customer or consumer has been missing something for the last two years without a release.
Also, if there is a real desire and community available the project can be unarchived.
I assume we're not actually in a hurry and that IDE WG can be given time to consider the best course of action.
-Gunnar
On 5. Oct 2026, at 09:08, Ed Merks via technology-pmc <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
_______________________________________________Yes, I've also asked the IDE WG to put this on the agenda. We really have no information about who is consuming this content but one can be sure that any consumers do not read this mailing list.
I do know for a fact that there are consumers and this will have a negative impact on them.
On 10/5/2026 8:45 AM, Alexander Fedorov via technology-pmc wrote:
Hello Technology PMC,
Hello EMO,
I have a question regarding Eclipse Babel termination: what is the planned replacement for its localization functionality?
A lot of Eclipse-based products around the world consumes Babel packages with translated resources for decades.
Termination without replacement may have notable negative impact on Eclipse ecosystem.
Perhaps this termination plan should be announced more widely so that the Eclipse community has a chance to keep this project viable.
Regards,
AF
01.10.2026 17:53, Gunnar Wagenknecht via technology-pmc пишет:
+1
On 1. Oct 2026, at 07:32, Eclipse Management Office EMO via technology-pmc <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
_______________________________________________Dear PMC and project team,
Based on the project activity, last commit and releases, the EMO has identified the following project as a candidate for termination:
- Eclipse Babel: https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.babel
We would appreciate any additional information you can provide about the project's status.
Otherwise we'll proceed to schedule a termination review in the upcoming weeks.
Kind regards,
Carmen Delgado
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