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Re: [technology-pmc] Termination candidate: Eclipse Babel


Hello Gunnar,

> Can you point to an active service the project is providing that is still operational? Assuming it was https://babel.eclipse.org/ and ran on a v-server, such server was terminated in 2024 without a replacement. I believe the infrastructure was shut down affectively in 2024.

Yes, from this point of view you are right: project is almost not functional.
What we still have is https://download.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/latest/ where one can consume p2 artifacts, and because of low volatility of mature Eclipse projects it still keeps relevance.

My point is that formal termination without wide discussion (that will start soon on IDE WG) may have a very heavy impact, because today a lot of contributors starting from Eclipse Platform assumes that it is sufficient to do an externalization, and then someone else will take care about translation, but this will not work anymore even in theory after Babel termination.
So, despite the fact that termination decision looks reasonable here from EDP perspective, we must carefully consider the consequences.
 
Regards,
AF

05.10.2026 12:57, Gunnar Wagenknecht пишет:


On 5. Oct 2026, at 11:27, Alexander Fedorov via technology-pmc <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
However, let me point out the difference between an arbitrary Eclipse project and Eclipse Babel:
Eclipse Babel is more a service project since it provides fragments with translated strings from other projects, so its own functionality may not need any notable evolution and this may be one of the reasons for low activity in mailing list and other places.

Can you point to an active service the project is providing that is still operational? Assuming it was https://babel.eclipse.org/ and ran on a v-server, such server was terminated in 2024 without a replacement. I believe the infrastructure was shut down affectively in 2024.

Please note that I do emphasize with this being a big loss. However, a termination is not a deletion. It can be undone when someone steps up and is willing to do the work. That doesn't require us doing a full stop here and wait. If it's viable it should be resumed in an active project.

-Gunnar

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Gunnar Wagenknecht
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