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Re: [technology-pmc] Termination candidate: Eclipse Babel
Hello Gunnar,

All the statements you've made are convincing and of cause all these facts regarding project state cannot be ignored.

However, let me point out the difference between an arbitrary Eclipse project and Eclipse Babel:
Eclipse Babel is more a service project since it provides fragments with translated strings from other projects, so its own functionality may not need any notable evolution and this may be one of the reasons for low activity in mailing list and other places.

I guess most of us just don't know about the Babel data flow and how it collects data from multiple translators for these packet fragments. 
Thus, we are not talking about replacing one library with another: here we are talking about shutting down the infrastructure that allows Eclipse to speak many languages around the world.

Regards,
AF

05.10.2026 11:54, Gunnar Wagenknecht via technology-pmc пишет:
I see this a bit more pragmatic Ed.

The project hasn't had any release since 2023. The last mailing list activity is from 2024. Thus, I think it's ok to assume that the project is dead and termination is ok to happen.

FWIW, the source code is not killed. Its archive will remain available. Any project willing to take this on can just import the code. However, I don't think we need to have the overhead of running a separate project for this. Especially when there is evidence that no customer or consumer has been missing something for the last two years without a release.

Also, if there is a real desire and community available the project can be unarchived.

-Gunnar

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On 5. Oct 2026, at 09:08, Ed Merks via technology-pmc <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, I've also asked the IDE WG to put this on the agenda.  We really have no information about who is consuming this content but one can be sure that any consumers do not read this mailing list.  

I do know for a fact that there are consumers and this will have a negative impact on them.

On 10/5/2026 8:45 AM, Alexander Fedorov via technology-pmc wrote:
Hello Technology PMC,
Hello EMO,

I have a question regarding Eclipse Babel termination: what is the planned replacement for its localization functionality? 

A lot of Eclipse-based products around the world consumes Babel packages with translated resources for decades.
Termination without replacement may have notable negative impact on Eclipse ecosystem.
Perhaps this termination plan should be announced more widely so that the Eclipse community has a chance to keep this project viable.

Regards,
AF

01.10.2026 17:53, Gunnar Wagenknecht via technology-pmc пишет:
+1

On 1. Oct 2026, at 07:32, Eclipse Management Office EMO via technology-pmc <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear PMC and project team,

Based on the project activity, last commit and releases, the EMO has identified the following project as a candidate for termination:


We would appreciate any additional information you can provide about the project's status.

Otherwise we'll proceed to schedule a termination review in the upcoming weeks.

Kind regards,

Carmen Delgado


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