Re: [cn4j-alliance] MP apis and "graduation" to Jakarta EE

["Thomas Watson" <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Just to clarify.  You are stating that a future release of MicroProfile has no need to depend on a future version of MP Config?  I assume the answer is yes, future MicroProfile releases will have some need to use new features coming in a future MP Config spec.  Moving MP Config to Jakarta now puts a blocker in front of MicroProfile releases while they wait for a Jakarta release that includes the new MP Config.  I would be surprised if that is acceptable.

 

Now Jakarta could decide to modularize and release an updated MP Config spec ahead of the full Jakarta release that includes it, unblocking the MicroProfile release.  But if that is possible then surely MicroProfile could do the same such that the future Jakarta release can depend on the new MP Config.

Tom
 

 

 

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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2021 5:09 PM
 

Moving MP Config to Jakarta will not create circular dependencies as Jakarta does not depend on MP releases. MP releases depend on Jakarta releases. When moving a MP Spec to Jakarta, this MP spec will no longer be part of MP releases.

Thanks

Emily

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:52 PM Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree with everything you state except need to move the MP config itself to Jakarta.  So far I don't understand why we have to move working groups to do this.  I read that there may be some circularity issue that would pose an issue for building the specifications?  Would not moving MP config to Jakarta also introduce a circularity issue for future MP releases that now need to consume the latest from Jakarta?

Tom
 

 

 

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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2021 2:49 PM
 

I meant that they were originally planned to be done for Java EE 8, via the JCP. So there was nothing to transition ;)

 

It's a past statement. I don't think there is much value to discuss what might have been included in Java EE 8.

 

I disagree with forking and changing namespaces. It is unnecessary and causes unnecessary migration.

 

I also disagree with two configs existing in both Jakarta and MicroProfile. It is a recipe for confusion and disaster.

 

I think moving MP Config to Jakarta while retaining the same namespace is a better option.

 

Thanks

Emily

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:21 PM arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:43 PM Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, many and APIs were not intended to ever transition to the JCP. 

 

I meant that they were originally planned to be done for Java EE 8, via the JCP. So there was nothing to transition ;)

 

Kind regards,

Arjan Tijms

 

 

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