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Re: [wtp-dev] Copies of pre-req'd I-builds (was: Our march to M4)


David,

Yes, we in WTP land can certainly learn a thing or two from that GEF development manager.:-)

Arthur Ryman,
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Yes, agreed. And, to publicly remind everyone :) Naci and his "build team" have offered
to handle this in the build scripts (and I am assuming he'll keep us all updated on progress).


It turns out EMF has no plans to ever produce "M builds" per se, (but I know Jeffrey Liu is
working behind the scenes to at least get them to mark some as 'stable', which would
mean they would be left on download page. (but, until they agree and change process,
we still need to keep a copy).


VE/JEM has some plans to produce M builds eventually, but their schedule is a bit off the normal pattern,

so this is the best we can do (and JEM is very stable, so no risk there, just a naming/process issue).


We get spoiled by that great GEF team who so regularly produce stable builds in synch with the rest of Eclipse
(and, for those that don't know me and my sense of humor ... I'm not exactly an unbiased observer of GEF :)


David




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David,


If we are using I-builds of EMF and JEM for M4, then we really should make local copies of them on our download server to avoid broken links a few months from now.


Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development

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Given our status, plans and goals for M4, there's the general plan for builds/testing for the next little while.

The main goal is to have a Milestone quality build by Tuesday morning so we, and community, can
have several days to test for any show-stopping defects.

We'll change cruise control to do "continuous" I-builds for the next several days, following the usual
schedule of 11 PM, 8:30 AM, and 3:30 PM (EDT).  And, please remember, there's roughly a 15 minute

lag between extssh commits and pserver fetches .. so commit/release early !


Teams with large renames/refactorings still to do should work directly with effect teams, and plan a time

that teams can respond before next scheduled I-build and all have a coordinated "release" of changes,
or I-build will fail miserably and do no one any good.

Teams should "continuously" be picking up I-builds, sniff testing, and making sure blocking/critical fixes.
are resolved.

>From talking to EMF and JEM team leads, the version of EMF we should use for this milestone
is
EMF I20050414117

we'll try and get that in today's 3:30 build.

and JEM I20050415xxxx, to be created later today,
we'll get that in Saturday's builds.

(no substantial changes are expected, but we should use a coordinated "stable" version
to be reproducible and to report bugs against ... both these teams say they are not really
producing "M" builds of these packages, but these are based on M6, and JEM will be based on 0414 EMF.

I believe the GEF pre-req has already been fixed, and will be in today's 3:30 build.

Naci or Ozgur .. can you check if we can capture and upload "console log" from JUnit tests ....
that might be helpful is detecting problems.

Thanks all.

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