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Re: [technology-pmc] Requirements for publishing non-release builds
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Sorry for the delay in responding.
You need to a CQ for Maven Embedder before you can make a pre-release 
build available. Strictly speaking, you also need to have it if code in 
CVS depends on the Embedder technology.
You need to create that CQ now. I understand that the version of Maven 
Embedder you're using isn't a "release", but it is acceptable for you to 
change the code attachment on the CQ later. From what I understand, the 
CQ queue is about six months long at this point. Even getting parallel 
IP at this point will be time consuming.
Wayne
Abel Muiño Vizcaino wrote:
Hello Wayne,
Is there any news on this subject? Can we make a pre-release (nightly, 
integration or milestone) depending on an external bundle (the maven 
embedder)?
Thanks!
Abel Muiño
El 16/12/2008, a las 22:17, Wayne Beaton escribió:
Agreed. It's a pain.
However, Eclipse projects need provide IP that downstream consumers 
can use in their own products. In the case of Subversive, their 
JavaHL bindings are GPL-licensed; we cannot distribute that due to 
inconsistencies between the GPL and EPL (along with inconsistencies 
between the GPL and the commercial interests of many of our 
downstream consumers).
This is a different case. I believe that what we have here is a 
point-in-time problem.
I don't believe that the Maven Embedder technology qualifies for as 
an "exempt pre-requisite" and our current IP policy does not provide 
for the review of pre-release IP.
I'm working Janet and Mike to try and come up with a solution for this.
Wayne
Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
From the past experience with other Technology projects, e.g. 
Subversive, your update site can't have links to sites outside of 
eclipse.org.
You can see Subversive project download page as an example how it 
supposed to be done. Quite a pain for the end users in my opinion.
regards,
Eugene
Abel Muiño Vizcaino wrote:
What are the requirements for external pre-reqs? Can we publish 
snapshots without fully defining them?
The rationale here is that we would like to require an older Maven 
Embedder bundle (hosted outside eclipse, of course) which has not 
been officially declared as a pre-req because it is expected to be 
replaced by a newer version when the embedder is more stable (and 
we don't want to overload the ip-team). Additionally, this will 
allow us to experiment with different packagings and embedder 
versions in the future.
If an official pre-req is required, how shall we proceed?
El 16/12/2008, a las 18:38, Wayne Beaton escribió:
An incubating project can provide downloads of code that has been 
(a) approved or (b) approved for parallel IP by the IP DD team.
Code that has not been at least approved for parallel IP cannot be 
distributed from any Eclipse server.
For completeness, the rules for downloads are captured here:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Parallel_IP_Process 
Does this help?
Wayne
Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
Wayne,
Can you please clarify this for me. In my understanding, 
incubating projects are not supposed to distribute any binaries 
that contain code that haven't been approved for the parallel IP?
regards,
Eugene
Wayne Beaton wrote:
As long as you follow the rules for incubating projects, you 
should be okay.
Wayne
Abel Muiño Vizcaino wrote:
Hello,
At IAM we would like to start producing Snapshot and Milestone 
builds. Since there are several IP issues still being worked 
out, I would like to confirm that this is ok.
Is there any requirement for this builds? Do they need to have 
an special qualifier (other than those required by being in the 
eclipse incubator)?
Thanks for the advice,
--
Abel Muiño
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