| Hi 
 If we have the (long overdue) preference profiles we can
    legitimately promote the change as good for everyone.
 
 Those who need to preserve existing behaviour can just select the
    Legacy Profile; a single quick workspace 'repair'. They can exploit
    per-application profiles to ensure uniformity as preferences evolve.
 
 Those who want to move one can proceed without chnage, but will
    probably want to have application-wide profiles too.
 
 Regards
 
 Ed Willink
 
 
 
 On 09/12/2013 18:59, Ian Skerrett
      wrote:
 
      
      
      
      
        I
            agree 100% we cannot ignore the results. It is obvious a lot
            of people want the compiler warnings to change, so work
            needs to be done to improve the warnings. However, I do
            think a large minority didn’t like what was proposed so we
            should look for a compromise.   Ian     From:
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            ÇelaSent: December-09-13 5:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Survey results
   
          If 65 % is not large enough for action
            you should have stated in the beginning that only if we go
            over e.g. 75% this change will be made, not decide now based
            on a feeling for a number in a 'hmm 65% doesn't sound
            enough' fashion. 
            As I said I have voted 'No' for this
              but this ignoring of the people who actually took the time
              to help you by stating their opinion feels really bad.
              This poll resulted from an effort to be decisive and
              actually do something rather than go around in circles
              with opinions. We fended off other poll questions for
              which we had no 'promises' to be implemented if chosen so
              this poll was obviously aimed at implementing the
              requested features. Saying now that 'Yes you want it but
              we at Eclipse with commit rights know better' is not a
              good community strategy, especially to those who you asked
              for an opinion and who turned their head and listened. 
            
            On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Doug
              Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
              wrote: 
              
                
                  OK,
                      I’ll have to blow the dust off of it and read
                      through the yellowed pages :). 
                  Not
                      sure self-selecting matters too much in this case
                      (and I’m pretty sure my textbook says that
                      self-selecting is bad). I didn’t feel the way the
                      survey was presented led to a bias. 
                  Anyway,
                      just fishing for opinions. I still agree with
                      Ian’s conclusions. 
                  
                    
                    
                      
                        
                          On
                              09/12/2013 10:39 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote: 
                          Which
                              is actually another point, the response
                              size is pretty small. I’m not sure we can
                              conclude anything based on that. Check your old statistics textbook. The
                            total sample size was well over 2000 people.
                            That is definitely a statistically
                            significant sample size. Of course the
                            sample was self-selecting so there will be
                            bias. So please stop saying that
                            the sample was too small.
 
 If we assume a population of 9 million
                            people who use Eclipse, a confidence level
                            of 99%, and a confidence interval of 3%, we
                            only needed 1849 responses.
 http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm
 
 
 
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