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RE: [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: EclipseCon memory stickandGanymede M5
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Many embedded tools vendors do redistribute GPL code in
their products in the form of the gnu toolchain, amongst other tools necessary
for embedded development that come from the GNU community. That's why you see
more frustration from people in our community over this
issue.
Doug.
Martin:
The rules might be different at WindRiver, but I've
been told "you are IBM, and IBM cannot redistribute GPL code" -- so these sticks
are basically useless to me.
As I too need a fully-functional
environment (but can't hand out anything to students/attendees), I'm instead
planning to bring a second laptop which will function as my build server (
emft.eclipse.org), cvs server (
dev.eclipse.org) and database server (
build.eclipse.org), preconfigured for use in
my tutorial. Still trying to sort out how to bring a standalone "public
production server" to synthesize
download.eclipse.org -- might just be a
vmware image running on the second laptop. (BTW, if you're looking for a
dead-simple linux to install, I recommend AntiX. Small (300M) live/install CD,
runs on older/slower hardware, includes debian 4 / ubuntu 7.10 repositories.
http://antix.mepis.com)
Anyway, check
with your legal department. Handing out anything at a con counts as
"redistribution", be it a JVM, VMWare image, linux distro .iso, or anything
else.
Nick
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Martin Oberhuber <
martin.oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi
Bjorn, Janet and all -
Sorry for picking up this mail thread again, but
I have another question
in this context:
Being a Tutorial Presenter,
I recently got an E-Mail saying
"To help with that problem this year,
we are
sending the speakers for each tutorial four
or five 1Gb USB
memory sticks."
For DSDP, in order to get a fully
functional
environment to code and test a host/target
environment, the
users need things like QEMU,
cross compilers, a Linux image, VMWare
or
the like.
Such tools are available for free - and
everybody
uses them - but they are not under the EPL, so
they cannot be
distributed from Eclipse.org
servers or Sticks, just like the JVM's.
CDT
has had the same issue and come up with
Wascana; for DSDP, we're
going to discuss this
in a BoF at EclipseCon [1].
So what about the
"Tutorial Sticks"? Can we
put such stuff on these? My naive
guessing
would be yes, because these sticks belong
to the presenter so
it's a thing between
presenter and attendees not involving
the
EMO.
Or am I
wrong?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Martin
[1] http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=582¬accepted=all
Bjorn
Freeman-Benson schrieb:
> Thomas,
> Unfortunately, that license has the
same problems as the Sun license, specifically that it requires the Eclipse
Foundation "to defend and indemnify BEA..." - that's a risk that the
Foundation is currently not willing to assume.
>
> Thomas Hallgren
wrote:
>
> I used to work with the JRockit team at BEA so I asked
them. Is their license is OK?
>
>
http://commerce.bea.com/products/weblogicjrockit/jrockit_eula.jsp>
>
- thomas
>
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
