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+1 on Fresh. As much as I like Ward personally, I thought his keynote was
lousy. From:
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[mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Scott Rosenbaum Fresh is good… From:
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[mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Donald Smith FWIW, Uncle Bob gave a keynote at EclipseWorld last year.
I personally wasn’t that impressed but I do understand that I’m in the minority
on that perspective. Just pointing out that he would be a repeat to the
Eclipse crowd. Joel also gave a great keynote at EclipseCon a couple
years ago. Ward too. So I guess I’m suggesting that good or not,
maybe we should be considering fresh perspectives? -
Don From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Scott Rosenbaum Mala +1 (enthusiastic) Uncle Bob: I know this won't be popular, but. I am not a big fan of the software
craftsmanship, agile, TDD line of. I have heard the talks, seen the
videos, and read the books... And I remain a bit of a
skeptic. It all comes across as
a bit Pedantic. If you only
adopt our methodology than suddenly your projects will
succeed, the sun will shine, and you we will all have puppies for Christmas. My faults with the Agile school have
all been said better by Steve Yegge in his Good Agile, Bad Agile post. So for me -1 on Uncle Bob, if he is
solo. Now Uncle Bob paired up
with someone that is a bit more from the run and gun program world? That
could be interesting. Does
anyone have a link to a good Uncle Bob presentation? I looked but did not
find anything compelling. Joel Spolsky and Uncle Bob have a running
discussion that started with Joel’s Duct Tape Programmer post and Uncle Bob’s response, Tim Bray
got in on the action too. I was going to suggest Peter
Seibel the author of the book
that got Joel, Bob and Tim going, but then I found one of his talks. If
you need to take a little nap and
have 1 hour 12 minutes to kill, you may want to try this.
Good author, bad presenter (IMHO) Just my .02 scott -----Original Message----- Kent/Bob/Ward -- all kind of at the
agile/tdd/craftsmanship area Mala/Jeff
-- real-world stories of Eclipse success We're going to have at least two
keynotes, maybe three, depending on the feedback there is from the PC on
the conference layouts that I attached to a previous email...let me
check it...oh, there isn't any. Take a look at the attachments on the email
entitled "EclipseCon 2010 Part 2 - Conference
Structure" for more information (provided these
attachments actually made it out into the light of day). I'm going to suggest that we contact
Uncle Bob and Mala and suss them out for the first two keynote slots. What's the third keynote going to be
about? Take a look at the layouts and let's have a quick discussion
on whether we should have 3 keynotes, or leave it at two.
Leaving it at two gives us more time for other things and
potentially a little more in the way of budget. If we go for a third, I
would like to see someone speak about Eclipse in mobile. I know
there's plenty of it about in the Ecosystem, so there should be
contacts - give us all the benefit of your forthright opinions. --oh _______________________________________________ eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee
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