| RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Keynote Ideas |
Mala +1 (enthusiastic)
Uncle Bob: I know this won't be popular, but.
I am not a big fan of the software craftsmanship, agile, TDD line of. I have heard the talks, seen the videos, and read the books... And I remain a bit of a skeptic. It all comes across as a bit Pedantic. If you only adopt our methodology than suddenly your projects will succeed, the sun will shine, and you we will all have puppies for Christmas.
My faults with the Agile school have all been said better by Steve Yegge in his Good Agile, Bad Agile post. So for me -1 on Uncle Bob, if he is solo. Now Uncle Bob paired up with someone that is a bit more from the run and gun program world? That could be interesting. Does anyone have a link to a good Uncle Bob presentation? I looked but did not find anything compelling.
Joel Spolsky and Uncle Bob have a running discussion that started with Joel’s Duct Tape Programmer post and Uncle Bob’s response, Tim Bray got in on the action too.
I was going to suggest Peter Seibel the author of the book that got Joel, Bob and Tim going, but then I found one of his talks. If you need to take a little nap and have 1 hour 12 minutes to kill, you may want to try this. Good author, bad presenter (IMHO)
Just my .02
scott
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Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Keynote Ideas
Kent/Bob/Ward -- all kind of at the agile/tdd/craftsmanship area
Mala/Jeff -- real-world stories of Eclipse success
We're going to have at least two keynotes, maybe three, depending
on the feedback there is from the PC on the conference layouts that
I attached to a previous email...let me check it...oh, there isn't any.
Take a look at the attachments on the email entitled
"EclipseCon 2010 Part 2 - Conference Structure"
for more information (provided these attachments actually made
it out into the light of day).
I'm going to suggest that we contact Uncle Bob and Mala and
suss them out for the first two keynote slots.
What's the third keynote going to be about? Take a look at the
layouts and let's have a quick discussion on whether we should
have 3 keynotes, or leave it at two. Leaving it at two gives us
more time for other things and potentially a little more in the
way of budget. If we go for a third, I would like to see someone
speak about Eclipse in mobile. I know there's plenty of it about
in the Ecosystem, so there should be contacts - give us all the
benefit of your forthright opinions.
--oh
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