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Re: [eclipse.org-committers] Committers Agreement Open Ended

On 2019-02-23 2:43 p.m., Peter Kriens wrote:
Mike,

Well, times are changing. I recently saw an institution where the ethics committee was being hijacked and that definitely concerned me.

Peter,

Understood. But similar to Ed Merks' reply, I would point out that the policies in question are Board-controlled documents which in most cases require a super-majority (2/3) vote to approve. One of the features of Eclipse's governance is that we have elected committer representatives who are responsible for representing your interests. And historically they have been very vocal and helpful in that regard. The diversity of representation on our Board is one of our community's strengths. All of that to say is that "hijacking" is not something that I have seen in the 15 year history of the Eclipse Foundation, and that I am quite confident that it would be unlikely in the future.

All,

Which, BTW, is an excellent time for me to point out that voting is open for the committer board rep elections[1]. Please vote if you have not already. If you have not received voting credentials, please contact webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx. I cannot stress enough how important these seats are to the overall success of the Eclipse Foundation as an institution and a community. Your committer reps fulfill a very important role, and you should cast your ballot to help select them.

Thanks.

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/org/elections/


Kind regards,

Peter Kriens
 


On 23 Feb 2019, at 19:40, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2019-02-23 1:14 p.m., Matthew Khouzam wrote:
If it were a different foundation, I would be cautious, but eclipse has always in my esteem acted in good faith. That being said, I am all for a re-wording or clarification. If this scares someone enough to email about it, it probably scares 10 people we haven't heard of.

Matthew (and Peter)

Those words have been in our committer agreements since 2004. In that time we have had a few thousand committers and several hundred member companies sign up to those terms. This is the first time we have ever had a question about it. I think that speaks for itself.

Thanks.

BR,
Matthew

From: eclipse.org-committers-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <eclipse.org-committers-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Peter Kriens <peter.kriens@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:14:14 AM
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Subject: [eclipse.org-committers] Committers Agreement Open Ended
 
I am asked to sign a new committers agreement like I guess all of us.

I read the agreement and it contains this section that worries me:

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This is basically an open ended agreement, to be amended by the foundation anytime. Are there more committers worried about such an agreement or am I overly cautious?

Kind regards,

Peter Kriens

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