Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] The "Eclipse Projects" Market

[Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>]

The two approaches are not mutually exclusive ;).

On 2015-05-04, 5:15 AM, "Michael Scharf" <eclipse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 2015-05-03 17:25, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>
>> Thus could be done at project creation time too. The user selects a
>>particular template and the
>> template ensures that the required plug-ins are installed. The list of
>>templates could even be
>> pulled from the Internet just like the marketplace client.
>
>This assumes, that users create a new project from scratch. Most
>projects I 'create' are based on code that I clone form github and
>that I want to browse. This is where editors like sublime or emacs
>shine: zero setup, just open the directory.
>
>In this case, when I create the project, I don't know what's in there.
>The only reason I create project is because eclipse forces me to
>create a project.
>
>Therefore the I like the jetbrains approach: if I open a file with a
>filtype that is currently not supported by the IDE, they open it as
>text file and they ask me if I want to install support for the new
>filetype.
>
>When eclipse does not know the file type, it tries to open the file
>with the 'system editor', which I find extremely annoying most of the
>time. LiClipse does it right, by opening the file in a plain text
>editor. This is what I expect.
>
>The assumption that users create projects before they start working is
>one of the biggest obstacles for using eclipse. This may have been
>the main workflow 20 years ago when eclipse started. Today a good part of
>development is to look at existing code and libraries which often
>contain code in languages that are not part of the main project.
>
>`git clone` is something I do every day and how to browse the result
>directory in eclipse is a major headache....
>
>Michael
>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>>    Original Message
>> From: Michael Scharf
>> Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2015 10:04 AM
>> To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
>> Reply To: Michael Scharf
>> Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] The "Eclipse Projects"
>>Market
>>
>>
>> On 2015-05-02 9:27, Marcel Bruch wrote:
>>> I¹m a follower of the "start from a minimal platform package and
>>>install what you need² religion.
>>
>> Me too. One approach I have seen with JetBrains products is that the
>>IDE recognizes
>> that there are plug-ins you may want to install when you open a
>>file-type that
>> is not supported by the currently installed plug-ins.
>>
>> Imagine, there would be some intelligence that suggests plug-ins to
>>install
>> from looking at your workspace. Instead of actively searching for
>>plugins
>> there would be a plugin recommender similar to code recommender :-)
>>
>> Michael
>>
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