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[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber,
Martin
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:01 PM
To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] What's the process
fornominating a new member?
Hi
Brian,
this
is in fact in interesting question. Though I'd think I'd rephrase the question:
"What are expected
qualifications for a proposed appointed AC member?"
Since
I don't think the process is unclear (just go ahead and propose somebody
on
the mailing list), but it's unclear whether the candidate you have in mind
would
meet
some criteria which we perhaps feel instinctively but haven't anywhere
written
down.
I'll
try to start a discussion with what I feel, and I think that once we reach some
consensus this should be documented on the Wiki:
- Mentorship. AC members may be pulled in as
Mentors. Therefore, they should have some experience in Eclipse project
leadership and a good understanding of the Eclipse Development
Process and IP Policy. They should also be "linked in" to
the Community such that they know whom to ask in case they cannot answer a
question for a project that they might eventually be mentoring... though
becoming an AC member should make a great stride towards getting
"linked in".
- Time and Passion. New AC members
should not get dormant immediately. Since the work of the AC is in order
to improve the Eclipse Ecosystem as a whole for the benefit of all the
projects, they should have some passion for that Ecosystem and be willing
to invest some time for that (I've mentioned 4 hours each month as a
minimum before).
- Public Track of Contributions. AC membership
is considered the highest level of Meritocracy. Therefore, proposed AC
members should have some public track of records which shows, how they
have helped the Eclipse Development process or ecosystem before. I'm
thinking of mailing list / newsgroup answers, blog posts, FAQs, discussion
contributions, and bugzilla bugs on the "Community" category.
- Authority. We'll want the AC to be
perceived as a body of authority. Therefore I think that also AC members
should be perceived as persons of authority in the domains that they come
from. They should be "known" to the Community in good standing
thanks to the contributions that they have made before. To me,
"Authority" also conveys that AC members should show technical
(software development) excellence in their respective areas, such that
they are welcome as discussion partners for architectural questions.
As
I'm writing this down, I acutally notice some similarity to the new committer election process:
people can help / contribute to the AC work by bugzilla comments, blogs, etc
even if they are not members of the AC. Dave Carver, for instance, has been
contributing a lot. After some contributions they can be voted in. Ideally, not
only appointed members should meet these criteria, but also those
representing a PMC or strategic member (though we cannot influence this, so
officially the criteria should only apply for appointed members).
Once
somebody can think of a proper candidate, we might first have an informal
unrecorded poll [1] what others think, in order to protect people's
privacy. Next, I think it's good to ask that candidate whether she would be
willing to join the AC -- it should mean some time commitment, so joining the
AC or not is not a natural no-brainer and might require candidates to check
with their employers for acceptance. Candidates may feel honored to get asked
even if they are not finally appointed for whatever reason, so asking them
first seems right. Once that is clear, the candidate can be proposed on the
mailing list, we collect comments or votes and then recommend her to Mike for
appointment.
Does
that make sense? What do others think?
[1] Bjorn on not always being too open,
http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2008/10/goldilocks-and-three-bears-of-openness.html
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of
Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From: eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of brian.fitzpatrick@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:25 PM
To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] What's the process
fornominating a new member?
Hi all
Sorry to spam
the list with this question, but figured it was better to ask publicly in case
other people were wondering the same thing.
Is there a
process for nominating a new member to the architecture council? I'd like to
nominate one of the DTP PMC members to join. She's got the experience and the
passion to fuel a number of healthy discussions among the group and I think
she'd be a great addition.
Thanks in
advance
--Fitz
Brian Fitzpatrick
Eclipse Data Tools Platform PMC Chair
Eclipse Data Tools Platform Connectivity Team Lead
Staff Software Engineer, Sybase, Inc.