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[dsdp-tm-dev] RE: openSolaris ? What is the story ?
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>Why do
you think that companies need to have 500+ employees to
contribute?
>Everybody, including individuals, can contribute by just
submitting a patch.
As explained before, it difficult
coming up to speed on eclipse. Its very complex in terms of interfaces. and a
large financial investment for small companies. I can give you the specific
economics, but is long, boring an way off topic..
The bottom line is
eclipse is very expensive to come up to speed on. Just look at RSE how
many plugin modules are in there ? Is there any documentation on which
features implemented ? What are the dependencies on other projects. For a new
group just to make minor changes, need to come up to speed on hundreds of
different modules and then wonder about versioning issues. From the outside,
we never know which versions and configurations to use.
Committers are here to help you get set up. They will tell you what
modules to look at, what configs to use. At least those bugs which are in
bugzilla marked "bugday" are really simple ones to fix. Getting up to speed on
any of these should be really really fast. And for others, again, do ask the
mailing list and we will help!
For example, we were struggling with a PTP install
issue. It turned out the bundled version of CDT on the download page was
different than the release candidates, major functions were missing from the
bundled build. It took 2 days to figure out that PTP wouldn't install/work
with the bundled build on the download page.
I cannot really speak for PTP, but issues like this should not happen for
projects which are on the (Galileo) Release Train. The release train is there
for the very reason of making sure that projects work
together.
Well, that was $2000, plus lost ground. And that was
just a simple configuration issue !!! By the time we are done with getting RSE
fully working on solaris I'll spend close to $85K. a single point
infrastrucure product shouldn't cost more than .5% of net revenue. So, net
revenue needed to bring RSE support to solaris is $1.8mm that is $9mm in gross
revenue.
Eclipse is not a lean platform, entry overhead is high and
out of reach for small companies.
I'm glad to hear other are will to
help me though this process.
Of course, the cost of entry depends on your previous experiences. But
the self hosting scenario as per the FAQ entry I referenced earlier should
be easy to understand. Plus CVS team project sets and instructions what
plugin to look into...
Anyways, just in case you really start looking at the dstore thing,
please do count the hours needed for getting set up and for fixing the bug.
I'd love to see some data point how high the entry bar really is. We are here to
help where we can.
Thanks,
Martin
