Re: [udig-devel] walkthrough 1 - refractions postgis instance is unavail

["andrea antonello" <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx>]

> Hi Eric - can you please change the subject line :-) I quickly loose my head
> with the amount of email when topics change inside an already existing email
> thread.

Same for me Jody :) Even if I like all this moving around the issue.

> Your documentation of how to produce the problem is of course excellent :-)
> How should we best organize for this?
> a) We could use Jira (make a "release" for the code sprint so we can mark
> bugs as "fixed for 1.2 codesprint").
> b) We could use a wiki page
> c) We could actually just use email and organize a thread around each
> problem

Eric wrote a part in the wiki to try to schedule things. JIra is also
mentioned.
Eric, I see your schedule starts the 19th, but I am not sure we will
make it to create a product before Xmas. Let's see, never say never.

> Some of the subjects you mention actually fall under feature development; I
> think trunk needs some basic care and feeding (with things like the postgis
> wizard not working). My understanding is that we want to make trunk work so
> the developer community is not split across two branches...

Yes, Jody, I think you are right, but I would exploit the moment to
collect ideas and well made analyses of use cases. Anyway for the
sprint we then will have to vote for a priority list of things to fix.
Virtually I feel that we could go endlessly in finding potential bugs
and enhancements :)

Andrea



> Jody
>
> Eric Jarvies wrote:
>>
>> I agree.  The sooner I have a testable OS X version, the sooner I could go
>> through it and prepare uDig bug videos showing the problem, and suggesting
>> solutions when/where they are not otherwise obvious.  Especially fundamental
>> issues.  For example:
>>
>> 1. In Layers pane, right click on layer, select Properties from contextual
>> menu.  user has no ability to COPY text that is displayed in this
>> 'properties' window.   Additionally, there is a bug in the Properties menu,
>> wherein if a user re-sizes the two panes, and if a row in the right side
>> pane contains a long string of text(url), the window will blow-up.  See the
>> video to better understand.  Additionally, if the user, at any time, resizes
>> this Properties window, uDig should remember this, and upon opening it the
>> next time, it should remain the same size as was set previously by the user.
>>  uDig, overall, seldom remembers such things throughout the entire
>> application.
>> http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Properties_pop-up_window-small.mov
>>
>> 2. In the Table view, a number of things need to be fixed/added to bring
>> it up to speed so it can at minimum, serve as a basic data editor.  Right
>> now, it is very difficult to use uDig to edit records.  Watch the video, and
>> see how I've pointed out about a dozen or so issues.
>>
>> http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Table_view_tabbing_copyPaste_importExport_userConfig.mov
>>
>> 3. etc.
>> (i'll add 30 more videos with about 100 items to the list)
>>
>> I will prepare as many videos as I can that point out lacking features,
>> areas that need improvement, and of course bugs.  Also, I will upload
>> 640x480 videos, in addition to thumbnail videos(like the above 2), so that
>> those of you that are unable to get the point from those small video files,
>> can reference the full size and full res files, which of course are
>> 10-40mb's each, depending on length.
>>
>> In my opinion, as part of this sprint, I encourage those capable(coding)
>> to really try to concentrate on BASIC functionality, so that uDig can start
>> being used as an editor of data.  I understand that a lot of these basic
>> features are not as exciting to program/code, as are other features that are
>> cooler or a lot neater, but imho, these BASIC functionality features will
>> result in more users actually using uDig for more things, like editing
>> records, for example.  Right now, I only use uDig for a viewer, because it
>> is incapable of being used as an editor, because it lacks basic
>> functionality in that department.  Alas, these are fairly straight forward
>> issues to address/correct/add, programmatically speaking, so I encourage the
>> programming-powers-that-be, to please seriously consider putting these
>> towards the top of the priority list(copy, paste, keyboard commands, etc.)
>>
>> over the next days, I will go through udig from head to toe, and create
>> these videos, and as I upload them and post them to the wiki, I would
>> appreciate it if all of you could view them, and then edit the wiki to
>> reflect which of them are the most important, and which should definitely be
>> addressed.  Each video may cover one, some, or many issues at once.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:24 AM, andrea antonello wrote:
>>
>>> Great Eric and Marks, thanks for the help.
>>> I'm really glad things are constantly moving.
>>>
>>> We still have an important issue to solve: we do not have a working
>>> udig product to use for the pre-sprint testing.
>>>
>>> In my opinion if we do not push out a 1.2 test-version soon we risk to
>>> have too few time.
>>> I am currently not working hard on trunk, so for me it would be an
>>> effort to set up Jesse's build engine right now.
>>> Is anyone able to throw out a version "as-it-is-now" without too much
>>> effort? Any volunteer?
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Eric Jarvies <ej@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok, i will setup a user account(ssh/sftp) for you to access the server,
>>>> which is hosted at slicehost.  i have 2 slices, each at 1gb, so one, or
>>>> both
>>>> can be used, and if more system resources are needed, i will up the 1gb
>>>> to
>>>> 2gb, or 4gb if needed.  also, have 2 static ip addresses on each of
>>>> those
>>>> slices.
>>>>
>>>> eric
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Leslie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eric,
>>>>> That's great news.  I've volunteered to get the database setup once
>>>>> we've
>>>>> made a decision on the data to load (day or two).  Could you contact me
>>>>> off-list (mark.leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxx) to sort out account details?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Leslie
>>>>> Geospatial Software Architect
>>>>> LISAsoft
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Ph: +61 2 8570 5000 Fax: +61 2 8570 5099 Mob: +61
>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf 19-21 Pirrama Rd Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies
>>>>> http://www.ardec.com.au
>>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>>> http://www.terrapages.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Jarvies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i can provide user accounts for postgresql/postgis, geoserver, and
>>>>>> ssh/sftp to a test environment that is up and running(
>>>>>> http://CSL.com.mx ).
>>>>>> I could provide this between now and the final code sprint
>>>>>> work/version
>>>>>> release date.   this server can provide psql, wms, wmf, and whatever
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> anyone feels needs to b running/working for testing purposes.
>>>>>> eric
>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> uDig walkthrough 1 is looking good; so far the main problem is that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> PostGIS instance at www.refractions.net is missing. I am not sure if
>>>>>>> it can
>>>>>>> be turned back on or not. Is this something anyone would be willing
>>>>>>> to host?
>>>>>>> Connecting to PostGIS is an important user story for walkthrough 1 to
>>>>>>> make.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jody
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
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