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Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Budget question

Markus/all,

 

There’s not much to add beside what Will already answered.

Not sure what the MicroProfile Working Group Fees are but I assume it’s a one-time waiver of fees for the MP WG fees which otherwise would generate extra Revenue?

 

Nobody forced the MP community to have its own WG with a separate set of fees, but so be it and those (Enterprise or Strategic) members who insist on "dancing" at each of these, they’ll have to pay as a consequence.

 

Not sure how many People the Staff cost is split by, but I would imagine it covers Ivar and others helping Eclipse Foundation on a full time Basis with Jakarta EE. That was actually 40k less than estimated in 2020.

The fact that other (including legal) was much higher in 2019 than estimated, well ask Will if he’s allowed to share, how big Oracle’s legal budget is for similar purposes ;-D

 

Werner

 

Von: will.lyons@xxxxxxxxxx
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2020 19:55
An: jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Budget question

 

Markus -

During 2020, the Eclipse Foundation has provided critical support for delivering Jakarta EE releases and promoting the same:

- For the Jakarta EE 8 Platform which was released last year we have a compatibility and branding process for which we have 10-16 compatible implementations depending on how you count, including Eclipse GlassFish 5.1.0.

- The Eclipse Foundation was instrumental in delivering Jakarta EE 9 Platform and component specifications, enabling the operational forums through which the release was planned and delivered, the compute/build infrastructure for specs, TCKs and Eclipse GlassFish compatible implementation development (and many of the component compatible implementations), chairing of the spec committee that drove the spec process, leading planning for announcing the release, and additional direct contributions to the work of the Specification and Steering Committees.

- The Eclipse Foundation has delivered critical marketing services throughout the year, supporting the marketing committee in areas such as web site management, content creation, placing media artricles, blogs, analyst briefings, press intebiews, sponsored conferences, four LiveStream events, driving and monitoring digital/social media, recruiting new WG members, committers and contributors, collaborations with JUGs, Jakarta YouTube Channel, Tech Talks, driving Jakarta EE Developer Survey and more.

- The above represents a significant amount of activity, which the EF staff contributes extensively to, either by direct delivery, or by coordinating, monitoring and driving to conclusion.

I'd like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation for your contributions to Jakarta EE during CY2020, to the Eclipse Foundation management and staff, and to all of the members of the Jakarta EE Working Group and the Jakarta EE community for their contributions as well.  This has been an unusual and difficult year for many of us, requiring more than the usual amount of flexibility and adaptability.  As this year comes to a close, a big "thank you" to all.   I hope you have the opportunity to take a break, and recharge for 2021.

Will

On 12/17/20 1:28 PM, Werner Keil wrote:

No it works without password, at least the one Tanja attached.

 

And did you read the legend below the table

„Note: all amounts are in thousands of dollars“ ?;-)

 

Therefore it’s

* Staff 395k$

 

Everything else would seem quite ridiculous and cover just an hour or less :-D

 

Werner

 

Von: Markus KARG
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2020 17:19
An: 'Jakarta EE Working Group'
Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Budget question

 

In fact I wonder what actually the services are that the Working Group consumed here in a bit more detail…

* Staff 395$

* Program Services 140$

* Marketing 335$

* Other 305$

…as it means that de-facto the EF itself burned approx. 1 Mio. $ and frankly spoken - I cannot see a publicly visible result being worth a million.

-Markus

 

Von: jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Tanja Obradovic
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2020 16:02
An: jakarta.ee-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-wg] Budget question

 

As you may have issues with accessing the Jakarta EE Steering Committee folder let me attach the .pdf with the information.

Regards,

Tanja

On 2020-12-17 9:45 a.m., will.lyons@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

r not inspecting your question and my reply more carefully.

The presentation link I sent contained the 2020 approved budget and 2019 spend data as of November 2019 for 2020 budget comparison purposes.

In response to your question and Markus', we have prepared a summary of the Jakarta EE WG 2019 and 2020 budget and spend and the 2021 budget at:

--

Tanja Obradovic

Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

Twitter: @TanjaEclipse

Eclipse Foundation: The Platform for Open Innovation and Collaboration

 



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