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Re: [tools-pmc] PTP 1.1 release review

If the PMC is happy to go ahead with the release, would you please provide approval to Anne? I'd like to get into the next available slot, which is Jan 31.

Thanks,

Greg

On Jan 4, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

To be honest, outside the Platform, API management hasn’t been as strict. The pragmatics of trying to build APIs without enough resources to do it properly win the day. For example, the CDT is coming up to 4.0 and we’re finally deciding to maybe solidify the APIs so they don’t change so much. As long as all of the users of the APIs participate actively in the project you can manage change. In fact, for the most part, it’s the users of the APIs that are driving the change. This works as long as your ISV community is small enough, which is probably true with PTP (but not with CDT anymore L)

 

Cheers,

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member


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Jeff,

 

On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Jeff McAffer wrote:




I just want to be really clear on the API points.  Adding API can cause breakage (e.g., adding a method to an interface that others are exepected to implement).  In the release review context it is interesting to know a) that the API has evolved with new function and b) that the old and new API are binary compatible.  That says that existing clients continue to work and new/updated clients have improvements available.  Of course, this also impacts the package/bundle version numbering.  I'll send you some pointers to a new API comparison tool we are working on that should help clarify what is going on here.

 

Great thanks. There was less emphasis on API's in the Technology Project (understandably, since it is an incubator), but I'm happy to change this now we're part of Tools.




BTW, what is going to be your story for the 1.x -> 2.0 migration?  Are you going to keep the 1.x API alive or toss it and have everyone migrate to 2.0?

 

The 1.x API will be tossed. There is no real need to keep the 1.x API since we don't have many clients in 1.x (mainly our own code), and new integrators are being directed to 2.0.

 

Greg




Jeff


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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the input. Responses below. I'll clarify these in the slides before the review.

Greg

On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Jeff McAffer wrote:


Thanks Greg.  Overall the deck looks good.  One of the things that caught my eye was slide 7 (API).  There are a couple of points that give me pause.

- Runtime and debugger APIs are still evolving

        - What is the status of this API for this release then?


The runtime API for the 1.0 and 1.1 releases are stable. However, the 2.0 release will have significant, breaking, changes, since we're currently implementing considerable new functionality. The debug API will also be relatively stable, though there were some minor changes between 1.0 and 1.1.

- APIs have been kept as stable as possible in this release
        - Not sure how to read that.  did you break API from last release?  


There were some additions to the debug API, but the existing 1.0 API has been preserved. I wouldn't consider that these break the API.

        - What was the last release number?  

1.0

        - Have the plugin version numbers been incremented appropriately?

The plugin version will change from 1.0.0 to 1.1.0.

        - How much API was broken?
        - Who will be affected by this?  (e.g., how many people, what kind of people, ...)


No one that I'm aware of. Integrators and contributors are working with the 2.0 (head) branch rather than the 1.x branch. There are a small number of users who will benefit from the enhancements/bug fixes in the 1.1 release.


Jeff


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Here are the slides.

Thanks,

Greg
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On Jan 3, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

> I think all you would need are completed release review slides.  
> We'll do a
> quick review to make sure you have everything, then you can  
> schedule the
> review with Anne Jacko.
>
> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Hi all,
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>> I'd like to schedule a review for the 1.1 release of PTP. Now that
>> we're part of Tools, I'd like to conform to your development process.
>> Is there anything in particular that I need to do before scheduling
>> the review?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Greg
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