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RE: [modeling-pmc] feedback on GMT web site


I'd like to hear from Bjorn, because I suspect that foundation has specific
expectations with regard to the extent that folks might use a project to
"advertise" things outside of Eclipse, especially when there are commercial
interests involved.  I'd personally prefer not to see pointers going off

Thanks for sharing your opinions!

Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
905-413-3265  (t/l 969)

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I really think the PMC needs to take the lead here.  You guys have to
decide how you want the modeling project and sub-projects to be perceived
in the Eclipse community.   I am just offering my opinion on what I
perceive and some suggestions on how to fix it.  You guys need to determine
what is best for the success of your project.

From: Richard Gronback [mailto:richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:33 PM
To: PMC members mailing list; Ian Skerrett; Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Cc: Markus Voelter
Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] feedback on GMT web site

Yes, it provides marketing value to the contributing organization.  Eclipse
should remain neutral with respect to all its contributors, commerical or
not.  That said, it?s not the Modeling PMC?s place to decide on this
matter, so I?ll defer to Ian and/or Bjorn to tell us the official word.

I?d just add this final bit... Are there commercial supporters of academic
research that results in contribution to Eclipse?  In the case of
openArchitectureWare, are there individuals associated with this
organization that profit from their involvement?  It?s a sticky area that I
would rather avoid altogether by removing all links to external
contributing organizations.


On 10/19/07 1:49 PM, "Jean Bezivin" <Jean.Bezivin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Until such time there is a policy for advertising external entities
(commercial, academic, or otherwise) on the
<>  website, I agree that all references should be
removed.  As Ed mentioned, you won't find links to IBM or Borland on the
EMF or GMF sites.

Do you consider commercial advertisement on the same foot than academic
I would be interested by an official confirmation of this.

Best regards,


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Richard C. Gronback
Borland Software Corporation
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