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From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:00:12 +0100
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Well I would defend that in terms of time it is quite fast (way faster than using jakarta instead of javax for ex since it is just about moving the code, there is no restriction about resources AFAIK - weridly).

Now it is also a miss in javax->jakarta move and nobody complained until now so maybe all vendors have workarounds and it is not that critical but I would fix it, worse case in a new release of TCK without re-releasing the platform (= make the release then catch up but ensure it is done somehow).

Le lun. 10 janv. 2022 à 20:54, Lukas Jungmann <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

On 1/10/22 8:45 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> @Lukas: as Emily pointed out we are not talking about implementation -
> we mentionned implementations have solutions for that in general but it
> is not a requirement of TCK nor the platform - and it is referenced in
> the platform itself. Reusing the same namespace is wrong as explained
> before and is the best promise of a not functional setup. I can agree
> JSON* specs are quite particular cause rather simpler than others and
> for this one it will likely work but it is not the most common case and
> I don't think aving a particular case not showing a good example of the
> platform best practise would be good to promote - but means it is ok to
> not change for next release but will be a must after if you are afraid
> of delays.

to be clear - I'm not against requiring it for the next release. I'm
against requiring it now for EE 10 given where we are, especially for
specs which are near completion, such as JSON Processing, or generally
specs in waves 0-1 (maybe 2). Those in later waves do still have some
reasonable amount of time to adapt to this change.

thanks,
--lukas

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> Le lun. 10 janv. 2022 à 20:23, Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>
> I agree this is a rather lengthy thread, things get lost and I would
> not like to rehash this conversation again. I'll only point you to
> this portion of the thread that I encourage you to read:
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg03064.html
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>
> Tom
> P.S. I know we want more to happen outside of the calls, but I
> think stuff like this would have been much better tracked in a
> github issue than continuing in a mailing list thread like this.
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Lukas Jungmann" <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>
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> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [External] : Re:
> Standardizing new TCK packages (was:package prefixes for Jakarta
> Batch TCK-related classes?org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2022 1:12 PM
> On 1/10/22 7:08 PM, Emily Jiang via jakartaee-platform-dev wrote:
> > The reasoning was mentioned in this mailing list thread as
> part of
> > conversation.
>
> I'm sorry but I got lost in the thread at the point where it was
> said
> that _some_ implementations are having hard times optimizing
> themselves.
> If that is the problem, then, IMHO, implementations should be
> fixed as
> they are usually those the best knowing the real "why" for what
> are they
> doing. I believe that what they are doing is not correct in 100%
> cases
> and it is possibly just a matter of time till someone files an
> issue
> for some of those corner-cases for which the "optimization" is
> wrong.
>
> Or are we going to just exclude/update failing tests instead of
> fixing
> the root causes of the problems going forward?
>
> thanks,
> --lukas
>
>
> > Thanks
> > Emily
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Lukas Jungmann
> > <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/10/22 6:31 PM, Emily Jiang via
> jakartaee-platform-dev wrote:
> > > Hi Lukas,
> > >
> > > In your scenario, since you are using the forbidden
> package naming
> > > convention, I think it should be updated for Jakarta
> EE 10.
> >
> > Who and when has forbidden it?
> >
> > thanks,
> > --lukas
> >
> > > Before the voting is over, you can choose one of the
> options in
> > the list
> > > and go from there.
> > > Thanks
> > > Emily
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 5:21 PM Lukas Jungmann
> > > <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
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> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 1/10/22 5:54 PM, Thomas Watson wrote:
> > > > +1
> > > > So far we have only agreed that for Jakarta 10 the
> > jakarta.* package
> > > > name must NOT be used. Ideally we would have a
> vote so
> > that any new
> > > > TCKs for Jakarta 10 would be able to use an
> agreed package
> > name,
> > > but I
> > > > don't think we should delay anything for
> Jakarta 10 outside of
> > > not allow
> > > > jakarta.* be used for TCK packages.
> > >
> > > just to make sure I understand this - in jsonp-tck
> which has been
> > > extracted from the platform repo to jsonp repo,
> tests were
> > moved to
> > > `jakarta.jsonp.tck` package and the TCK as such is
> considered
> > almost
> > > complete. We have one pending PR there + final
> review pending
> > before
> > > turning the draft spec PR into the regular one.
> Are we really
> > required
> > > to refactor everything at this stage again?
> > >
> > > --lukas
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original message -----
> > > > From: "Emily Jiang via jakartaee-platform-dev"
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> > > > Cc: "Emily Jiang" <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > Standardizing new
> > > > TCK packages (was:package prefixes for
> Jakarta Batch
> > TCK-related
> > > > classes?org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > > Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2022 10:22 AM
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > > > My responses are inline below.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Emily
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:14 PM Scott Marlow
> > > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 1/6/22 4:51 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> > > >> It sounds like we're all coming to
> agreement and
> > we're
> > > down to
> > > >> just picking the name. To Nathan's
> point, being
> > quick
> > > is key.
> > > >>
> > > >> Here's a proposal on how to wrap this up:
> > > >>
> > > >>   - We give till Monday 8am Pacific for
> people to
> > suggest a
> > > >> package prefix that does not start
> with "jakarta"
> > > >>
> > > >>   - On Monday we start a 72-hour rank
> choice vote
> > here on the
> > > >> mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >>   - If the chosen option needs to be
> eliminated
> > for any
> > > reason,
> > > >> we go to the second choice, etc. No
> new vote
> > necessary
> > > (yay,
> > > >> ranked choice).
> > > >>
> > > >>   - The chosen prefix would be a
> recommendation for
> > > Jakarta EE
> > > >> 10 and a requirement for Jakarta EE
> 11. TCK
> > classes from
> > > >> Jakarta EE 9.x and before are exempt,
> though we
> > may chose to
> > > >> have a separate discussion to change
> them at some
> > point.
> > > >
> > > > Will the vote be for recommending that
> new TCK
> > tests to
> > > be added
> > > > to EE 10 will use the package prefix?
> > > >
> > > > I think if possible, use the agreed
> package prefix.
> > If not,
> > > leave
> > > > it for now. I think the minimum is not to
> use jakarta.*
> > > prefix as it
> > > > might cause issues.
> > > >
> > > > Will the vote be for requiring that new
> TCK tests
> > to be
> > > added to
> > > > EE 11 will use the package prefix?
> > > >
> > > > Jakarta EE 11 new TCKs must use the new
> namespace.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >> Unless there are other proposals, I'll
> kick that
> > vote off on
> > > >> Monday.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -David
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Nathan Rauh
> > > >>> <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Emily,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> To answer your question, it's an
> existing TCK
> > that we are
> > > >>> porting from the platform into the the
> > particular spec
> > > >>> project where we are also adding new
> test cases to
> > > cover the
> > > >>> function that is new in EE 10. The
> developer
> > working
> > > on the
> > > >>> TCK port overachieved and had renamed the
> > packages from
> > > >>> whatever they were previously to
> jakarta.*, and
> > then others
> > > >>> of us when adding new tests used the same
> > package to match
> > > >>> the ported tests. To reiterate what
> stated in my
> > > reply, this
> > > >>> is not going to be a concern for
> TomEE and others
> > > because I'm
> > > >>> agreeing to get the TCK off of the
> jakarta.*
> > packages
> > > for EE
> > > >>> 10 - just not to wait for the outcome
> of what
> > will be
> > > the new
> > > >>> convention because that would set us
> back too far.
> > > Given the
> > > >>> number of positive replies to that, I
> already have a
> > > pull in
> > > >>> place to do so and have notified
> several other spec
> > > >>> participants who have new TCK tests
> that they
> > are writing
> > > >>> currently in progress so that can use
> a different
> > > package. I
> > > >>> appreciate the quick replies from
> everyone -
> > this is a case
> > > >>> where being able to take decisive
> action right away
> > > >>> definitely lessens the impact.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From: "Romain Manni-Bucau"
> > > <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
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> > > >>> Date: 01/06/2022 12:18 PM
> > > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> > [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > >>> Standardizing new TCK packages
> (was:package
> > prefixes for
> > > >>> Jakarta Batch TCK-related
> > classes?org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>> Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>>
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> > > >>>
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> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Just want to remind we don't speak
> about some
> > issue with
> > > >>> implementations - typically TomEE has
> a "toggle" to
> > > solve it
> > > >>> - but with the spec which forbids it
> so it means
> > that using
> > > >>> jakarta.tck is forbidden by jakarta
> as quote
> > earlier, in
> > > >>> particular cause most of TCK are ran
> in servlet
> > context by
> > > >>> the TCK runner and it had been like
> that since
> > years, I
> > > just
> > > >>> think javax -> jakarta (and more
> likely sun ->
> > eclipse)
> > > move
> > > >>> missed that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So no choice to rename, it seems the
> options are:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> * jakarta.ee- from my point of view
> it comes from
> > > nowhere for
> > > >>> anyone not deeply involved in Jakarta,
> > > >>> * tck.jakarta - not very neat but works
> > > >>> * org.eclipse.jakarta.tck - I still
> think it is
> > the most
> > > >>> consistent with what Jakarta is as of
> today.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Agree existing spec (using org.jboss
> for ex)
> > don't need to
> > > >>> move now, the only requirement is to
> not use
> > > >>> jakarta.something for anything which
> is actually
> > > deployed as
> > > >>> an application.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>> @rmannibucau| Blog | Old Blog | Github |
> > LinkedIn | Book
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Le jeu. 6 janv. 2022 à 18:50, Emily
> Jiang via
> > > >>> jakartaee-platform-dev
> > > <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > >>>
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>> Nathan,
> > > >>> Which Jakarta spec tcks already used this
> > package starting
> > > >>> with jakarta.*? Is this change new
> for Jakarta
> > EE 10 or
> > > >>> already released in the earlier
> Jakarta EE
> > release? If
> > > it was
> > > >>> released before, then it is not an
> issue. If it
> > is a new
> > > >>> change, will this be a concern for
> TomEE as
> > mentioned
> > > by David?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> When TomEE (might be others) comes to
> run the
> > tck, it might
> > > >>> cause issues. David, any thoughts on
> this? If it
> > is the
> > > case,
> > > >>> it might be ok to choose a different
> package such as
> > > >>> ee.jakarta or jakartatck etc.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> By the way, the new naming convention
> is for new
> > specs. The
> > > >>> existing specs should adopt it in the
> subsequent
> > release EE
> > > >>> 11 once we have reached agreement on
> which name
> > to use.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>> Emily
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 3:41 PM Nathan
> Rauh
> > > >>> <nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nathan.rauh@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> This discussion is concerning because
> one of the
> > Jakarta
> > > >>> specs that I'm working on and which
> is already
> > cutting
> > > it too
> > > >>> close making the EE 10 release is
> unfortunately
> > using
> > > >>> jakarta.* package names for TCK
> classes, and now
> > it's going
> > > >>> to need to change, further
> compromising our
> > chances of
> > > >>> getting into EE 10. The chosen
> package name
> > doesn't matter
> > > >>> to me, nor does whether or not there is
> > standardization
> > > >>> across TCKs. What does matter (to
> this spec at
> > least) is
> > > >>> getting a decision made quickly, but
> I don't
> > foresee a
> > > >>> decision on this being reached
> anytime soon
> > given the many
> > > >>> widely varying opinions that will
> likely eventually
> > > become a
> > > >>> vote, itself with a sufficient period
> of time
> > for votes
> > > to be
> > > >>> collected and all of that. It's just
> way too
> > late into
> > > EE 10
> > > >>> for adding a new requirement like
> this, and I'm
> > going to
> > > >>> suggest that it apply to EE 11
> instead, with the
> > > >>> understanding that for EE 10, we'll
> at least get
> > off of the
> > > >>> jakarta.* package name in the tck to
> something
> > else and
> > > then
> > > >>> align with whatever you decide in EE
> 11. Unless
> > anyone
> > > >>> objects, that's what I'll plan on doing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From: "Werner Keil"
> <werner.keil@xxxxxxx <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>>
> <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx <mailto:werner.keil@xxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> To: "jakartaee-platform developer
> > discussions"
> > > >>> <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> Date: 01/06/2022 09:20 AM
> > > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> > [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > >>> Standardizing new TCK packages
> (was:package
> > prefixes for
> > > >>> Jakarta Batch TCK-related
> > classes?org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>> Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>>
> <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> >   <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> At least org.glassfish still seems to
> be used.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Werner
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gesendet von Mailfür Windows
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Von: Mike Milinkovich
> > > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2022
> 15:24
> > > >>> An:
> jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > >>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > Standardizing new TCK
> > > >>> packages (was:package prefixes for
> Jakarta Batch
> > > TCK-related
> > > >>> classes?org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would like to point out that we do
> not use
> > "org" anywhere
> > > >>> with Jakarta at the moment. We do not
> own the
> > > >>> jakarta.orgdomain name, for example.
> We do own
> > and use the
> > > >>> jakarta.eedomain name.
> > > >>> From my perspective, starting to use
> the .org
> > TLD with
> > > >>> Jakarta for this purpose might be
> confusing.
> > > >>> On 2022-01-06 9:09 a.m., Scott Kurz
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1 fororg.jakartatck.*
> > > >>> (though OK with the other options)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks David for making that an
> option and
> > thanks all for
> > > >>> giving this some thought. Even
> though not
> > too many
> > > people
> > > >>> look at a TCK relatively speaking it
> seemed
> > better to
> > > be good
> > > >>> Java citizens and use a package of a
> domain name
> > we own.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> >   ------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> Scott Kurz
> > > >>> WebSphere / Open Liberty Batch and
> Developer
> > Experience
> > > >>> skurz@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> >   --------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Emily Jiang via jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > ---01/06/2022
> > > >>> 05:16:41 AM---Thank you David for the
> detailed
> > > explanation! I
> > > >>> now understood the concern. The
> following package na
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From: "Emily Jiang via
> jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>> <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> To: "jakartaee-platform developer
> discussions"
> > > >>> <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> Cc: "Emily Jiang"
> <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> Date: 01/06/2022 05:16 AM
> > > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > >>> Standardizing new TCK packages (was:
> package
> > prefixes for
> > > >>> Jakarta Batch TCK-related classes?
> > > org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>> Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>>
> <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>
> >   <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>> <Mail Attachment.png>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thank you David for the detailed
> explanation! I now
> > > >>> understood the concern.
> > > >>> The following package name might work:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -- tck.jakarta.<spec>.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In all, we could choose one from the list
> > > >>>
> > > >>> org.jakartatck.*
> > > >>> ee.jakarta.tck.*
> > > >>> tck.jakarta.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>> Emily
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:09 AM David
> Blevins
> > > >>> <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> I think I finally see what Romain is
> talking about.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I know in TomEE we have several
> optimizations to
> > try and
> > > >>> speed up deployment and bytecode
> scanning. We'll
> > > filter out
> > > >>> jars that match patterns like
> log4j-*, openejb-*,
> > > jakarta-*.
> > > >>>   Those jars are removed from the list
> of jars
> > that could
> > > >>> potentially contain applications and
> they'll
> > never be
> > > >>> searched for annotations like
> @Singleton, etc.
> > > Additionally,
> > > >>> as everyone uses somewhat expensive
> bytecode readers
> > > like ASM
> > > >>> to parse bytecode and scan for
> annotations, we have
> > > >>> additional filters to skip
> non-application
> > classes, such as
> > > >>> javax.* and jakarta.*. There are
> classloader
> > related
> > > actions
> > > >>> as well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here's an example we hit in
> EclipseLink when we
> > tried
> > > to use
> > > >>> the Eclipse Transformer to do the
> > javax-to-jakarta change.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345
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>
> >
> <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345
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> > >
> >
>   <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$> <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>   <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$> <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$>> <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$> <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java#L345 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/eclipselink/blame/master/jpa/org.eclipse.persistence.jpa/src/main/java/org/eclipse/persistence/internal/jpa/deployment/JavaSECMPInitializer.java*L345__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYYrzDo7M$>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We were transforming EclipseLink 2.x
> which did
> > not have the
> > > >>> `!name.startsWith("jakarta.")` string
> check, so
> > jakarta.*
> > > >>> classes were getting loaded as
> application
> > classes and
> > > >>> causing most tests to fail. We hit
> this in a
> > few different
> > > >>> libraries and ended up having to
> patch source to
> > ensure
> > > >>> "jakarta." and "Ljakarta/" were
> factored into
> > any code that
> > > >>> checked for "javax." as a package or
> "Ljavax/"
> > as bytecode.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If we started putting the TCK tests
> in "jakarta.tck"
> > > and that
> > > >>> also included the test applications
> we need to
> > deploy and
> > > >>> verify, that definitely will cause
> issues in a
> > handful of
> > > >>> component implementations we all use.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The only way to handle it would be to
> update
> > code like this
> > > >>> to have an exclusion that explicitly
> checks for
> > > "jakarta.tck"
> > > >>> and ensures it is treated as user-created
> > application code
> > > >>> and bypasses any "javax" or "jakarta"
> checks.
> > That's going
> > > >>> to mean there'll be code in our
> implementations
> > that says
> > > >>> essentially "if your code starts
> with jakarta.tck,
> > > make sure
> > > >>> it's treated correctly, otherwise do
> something
> > else." That
> > > >>> could be a slippery slope.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's probably better if we don't put
> ourselves in a
> > > situation
> > > >>> were we have to write code to
> specially handle TCK
> > > applications.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It occurs to be in writing this that
> literally any
> > > characters
> > > >>> before "jakarta" solves this issue.
> If we want
> > a short
> > > name,
> > > >>> we do own the jakarta.eedomain and can
> > potentially use
> > > either
> > > >>> of these:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - ee.jakarta.*
> > > >>> - ee.jakarta.tck.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I also just looked and jakartatck.orgwas
> > available, so I
> > > >>> purchased that and we could
> potentially use:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - org.jakartatck.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If we wanted to go that direction,
> I'd just transfer
> > > >>> jakartatck.orgto the Working Group
> like I did when
> > > purchased
> > > >>> jakarta.ee
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://jakarta.ee__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYGEMDaRY$>
> > <http://jakarta.ee
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://jakarta.ee__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYGEMDaRY$>>
> > >
> >   <http://jakarta.ee
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://jakarta.ee__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYGEMDaRY$> <http://jakarta.ee
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> > > >>>
> > >
> >   <http://jakarta.ee
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> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> David Blevins
> > > >>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
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> > >
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> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/dblevins__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYmtsGf50$> <http://twitter.com/dblevins
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> > > >>>
> > >
> >   <http://twitter.com/dblevins
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/dblevins__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYmtsGf50$> <http://twitter.com/dblevins
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> <http://twitter.com/dblevins
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/dblevins__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYmtsGf50$> <http://twitter.com/dblevins
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> > > >>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYrMrR6fk$>
>
> > <http://www.tomitribe.com
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> > >
> >   <http://www.tomitribe.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYrMrR6fk$> <http://www.tomitribe.com
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> > > >>>
> > >
> >   <http://www.tomitribe.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYrMrR6fk$> <http://www.tomitribe.com
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> <http://www.tomitribe.com
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYrMrR6fk$> <http://www.tomitribe.com
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> > > >>>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Thomas
> Watson
> > > >>>> <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Just to make sure I understand you.
> Are you
> > > suggesting that
> > > >>>> an application class loader for the
> old Java EE
> > (e.g. Java
> > > >>>> EE 8) must not allow not allow an
> application
> > (WAR) to
> > > >>>> package and load any classes from
> javax.* which
> > they
> > > >>>> contain. For example, no
> application server should
> > > allow an
> > > >>>> application to contain and
> successfully load
> > > javax.foo.Bar?
> > > >>>>   And now that we are in the
> jakarta.* namespace no
> > > >>>> application server should allow an
> application
> > to package
> > > >>>> and load a jakarta.foo.Bar class?
> What about javax
> > > now that
> > > >>>> we are jakarta, can applications in
> Jakarta 9 now
> > > >>>> successfully include and load
> javax.foo.Bar?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have to say this is news to me,
> and I do not
> > believe
> > > that
> > > >>>> is the way most application servers
> behave.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Tom
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Romain Manni-Bucau"
> > <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>>>
> <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>>
> >   <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> To: "jakartaee-platform developer
> discussions"
> > > >>>> <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> Cc:
> > > >>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > >>>> Standardizing new TCK packages (was:
> package
> > prefixes for
> > > >>>> Jakarta Batch TCK-related classes?
> > > org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 5, 2022 2:09 PM
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 20:37, Thomas
> Watson
> > > >>>> <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>>>> If you want one example, servlet
> 10.7.2 (for
> > v4.0 to take
> > > >>>>> one example) explicit it and for
> good technical
> > > reasons so
> > > >>>>> it is a "must stay" but it implies
> TCK shouldn't
> > > reuse the
> > > >>>>> same package by design and as it
> always had
> > been so
> > > it let
> > > >>>>> you org.eclipse for projects
> without an historical
> > > package
> > > >>>>> (guess it is more than fine to keep the
> > existing one when
> > > >>>>> it is there).
> > > >>>> In no way do I see how that section
> of the v4.0
> > > servlet spec
> > > >>>> says anything about jakarta.*. That
> package didn't
> > > exist in
> > > >>>> v4. For v5 we have:
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$>
>
> >
> <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$>>
> > >
> >
>   <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$> <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
>   <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$> <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$>> <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$> <https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html#web-application-class-loader <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/servlet/5.0/jakarta-servlet-spec-5.0.html*web-application-class-loader__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b-zVqz1ZDAQgRJxwGD94OEOJ4ORyZ6sOC1SbbDk5c0gw9DdokiMrnSOYgcXYZCsJ2So$>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Here I think you are referring to
> this sentence:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> "Servlet containers that are not
> part of a
> > Jakarta EE
> > > >>>> product should not allow the
> application to
> > override
> > > Jakarta
> > > >>>> EE platform classes, such as those
> in the jakarta.*
> > > >>>> namespaces, that Jakarta EE does not
> allow to be
> > > modified."
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> TCK classes are not considered platform
> > classes, they are
> > > >>>> TCK classes. I don't see how this
> sentence
> > applies to a
> > > >>>> possible jakarta.tck package.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is true for part of the tck but
> most of
> > them are
> > > >>>> *applications* (servlet for a
> trivial example,
> > > everything in
> > > >>>> war/ear for another one).
> > > >>>> Just stated what we have and do -
> and to be
> > honest it is
> > > >>>> normal otherwise tck wouldnt validate
> > compliance using a
> > > >>>> custom packaging ;).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Tom
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----- Original message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Romain Manni-Bucau"
> > <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev"
> > > >>>>
> <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>>
> >   <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> To: "Emily Jiang"
> <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> Cc: "jakartaee-platform developer
> discussions"
> > > >>>> <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [jakartaee-platform-dev]
> > > >>>> Standardizing new TCK packages (was:
> package
> > prefixes for
> > > >>>> Jakarta Batch TCK-related classes?
> > > org.eclipse.ee4j.batch ?)
> > > >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 5, 2022 10:09 AM
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 16:37, Emily
> Jiang
> > > >>>> <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>>> @Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>>   I must have misunderstood your
> question. Let
> > me try again
> > > >>>> to clarify this:
> > > >>>> 1. what's the plan about the spec
> saying jakarta.*
> > > should be
> > > >>>> excluded from the applications
> (which means it
> > cant be
> > > used
> > > >>>> by TCK)?
> > > >>>> I disagree with what you said
> jakarta.* can't
> > be used
> > > by TCK
> > > >>>>   because TCKs are part of specs and
> do not fall
> > into the
> > > >>>> application category. Besides, can
> you point
> > out which
> > > spec
> > > >>>> has this sentence? We need to
> discuss this
> > further to see
> > > >>>> whether it is correct to say so if
> it does have
> > this
> > > sentence.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ok so the consequence of you
> statement is that
> > there is no
> > > >>>> application code in TCK, no CDI
> bean, no EJB, no
> > > servlet, no
> > > >>>> JSP etc... (which is not true
> right?) so TCK
> > are mainly a)
> > > >>>> application code and b) test code
> (sometimes c)
> > runner
> > > code
> > > >>>> but let's integrate it in b)).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you want one example, servlet
> 10.7.2 (for
> > v4.0 to take
> > > >>>> one example) explicit it and for
> good technical
> > reasons so
> > > >>>> it is a "must stay" but it implies TCK
> > shouldn't reuse the
> > > >>>> same package by design and as it
> always had
> > been so it let
> > > >>>> you org.eclipse for projects without an
> > historical package
> > > >>>> (guess it is more than fine to keep the
> > existing one
> > > when it
> > > >>>> is there).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2. What about user confusion? "not
> care" :(?
> > > >>>> Not sure what user confusion do you
> mean? TCKs
> > are pretty
> > > >>>> much for implementers. Besides, I am
> not sure what
> > > >>>> confusions you are referring to. I
> think the
> > namespace
> > > with
> > > >>>> jakarta.tck is clearer as it means
> the tck classes
> > > from Jakarta.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> As soon as you get the dependency in
> a dependency -
> > > you are
> > > >>>> an user by definition - then you can
> get issues
> > if you use
> > > >>>> jakarta.
> > > >>>> It is also the case for end user -
> who never
> > use tck
> > > package
> > > >>>> - on maven if they are released
> under jakarta
> > groupId
> > > so as
> > > >>>> recommended in java ecosystem the
> groupId should be
> > > aligned
> > > >>>> on the package base name so likely use
> > > >>>> org.eclipse.jakarta.spec or alike.
> The risk is
> > users start
> > > >>>> importing tck instead of the spec and
> > application will
> > > work
> > > >>>> cause the spec comes transitively
> but it is not
> > what
> > > jakarta
> > > >>>> wants, right? Making it clean is
> trivial and
> > > consistent with
> > > >>>> everything so I think it is worth
> not trying to
> > be more
> > > >>>> clever than we need to.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> HTH
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:02 PM
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> @Emily: i know TCK are part of the
> spec as well
> > as the
> > > API,
> > > >>>> javadoc and textual doc (pdf/word)
> but you didn't
> > > solve the
> > > >>>> 2 issues I mentionned (not even
> speaking of the
> > > >>>> inconsistency between the status and
> naming
> > which is
> > > >>>> something very few will care except
> eclipse itself
> > > maybe) so
> > > >>>> not sure how the fact it is
> delivered as a whole
> > > solves the
> > > >>>> fact it is forbidden by spec to use
> this package.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog |
> Github |
> > LinkedIn | Book
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 15:26, Emily
> Jiang
> > > >>>> <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>>> Romain,
> > > >>>> TCKs are part of spec, as spec includes
> > api/spec doc /tck.
> > > >>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> Emily
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:48 PM
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> @Emily: what's the plan about the
> spec saying
> > jakarta.*
> > > >>>> should be excluded from the
> applications (which
> > means it
> > > >>>> cant be used by TCK)? What about user
> > confusion? "not
> > > care" :(?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog |
> Github |
> > LinkedIn | Book
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 14:31, Emily
> Jiang via
> > > >>>> jakartaee-platform-dev
> > > <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>>
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>>> We discussed the various package
> names including
> > > >>>> org.eclipse.*. The feedback is that
> TCKs should
> > align with
> > > >>>> the corresponding spec. It is much
> nicer to
> > start with
> > > >>>> jakarta.tck to denote the TCK
> classes and also
> > easily to
> > > >>>> filter out with pattern matching
> when searching
> > for api
> > > >>>> classes. Besides it is much shorter than
> > > org.eclipse.jakarta.
> > > >>>> In Jakarta Batch Tcks, you will use
> > jakarta.tck.batch
> > > >>>> instead of
> org.eclipse.jakarta.tck.batch.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> Emily
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:05 AM
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> As written on jbatch list I think it
> is normal
> > and safe to
> > > >>>> use org.eclipse.<something like
> jakarta.spec or
> > just spec>
> > > >>>> since jakarta specs are eclipse
> projects. It
> > also has the
> > > >>>> advantage to not use jakarta.*
> package which is
> > treated
> > > >>>> specifically by all implementations
> (by spec
> > actually ;))
> > > >>>> and would need some specific rules
> in the impl
> > is used for
> > > >>>> tcks too which is not the target of
> the spec at
> > all.
> > > Lastly
> > > >>>> it makes it obvious it is not part
> of the API
> > for users so
> > > >>>> it is very good too. For me, it
> looks like a
> > > consistent and
> > > >>>> good compromise for everyone
> (foundation, users,
> > > vendors and
> > > >>>> spec contributors/legal).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >>>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog |
> Github |
> > LinkedIn | Book
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 08:23,
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > >>>> <jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >>>> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a écrit :
> > > >>>> Sounds like a good improvement to me
> as well
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Le mar. 4 janv. 2022 à 22:00, David
> Blevins
> > > >>>> <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
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> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> a
> > > >>>> écrit :
> > > >>>>> On Jan 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Emily
> Jiang via
> > > >>>>> jakartaee-platform-dev
> > > <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > >>>>>
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> > <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I had this matter discussed in today's
> > platform call.
> > > Below
> > > >>>>> is the suggestion for the naming
> convention:
> > > >>>>>     • [Emily] Package naming
> convention for
> > TCKs?
> > > >>>>>     • Packages for TCK
> starts with
> > various
> > > names,
> > > >>>>> e.g. org.ibm, org.jboss, org.eclipse,
> > > jakarta.[spec].tck etc,
> > > >>>>>     • Should they be
> standardized?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>     • Two things need naming
> standard:
> > > >>>>>     • Packages
> > > >>>>>     • Suggested
> Naming Standard:
> > > >>>>> jakarta.tck.[spec]
> > > >>>>>     • New classes in
> > existing TCKs
> > > should
> > > >>>>> use the new name standard
> > > >>>>>     • Artifacts
> > > >>>>>     • Same group
> id as the spec
> > > >>>>>     • Artifact
> ids [foo]-tck
> > > >>>>>     • Existing TCKs may change if
> they like
> > > >>>>> New TCKs must use the new name standard
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The above is the general consensus
> from the
> > meeting.
> > > I will
> > > >>>>> start a new thread conversation for
> others to
> > comment on
> > > >>>>> the naming convention.
> > > >>>> Others can chime in, but I like the
> above
> > recommendation.
> > > >>>>   Using jakarta.tck.[spec] is just as
> good as
> > > >>>> org.eclipse.jakarta.tck.[spec],
> perhaps better.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Also agree that it should be
> standard across the
> > > various TCKs.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -David
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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