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Re: [ide-dev] Reactions on Mars release

I believe Wayne is addressing this as we type, but the lack of a combined New and Noteworthy make the upgrade experience rather unexciting.

I upgraded Luna to Mars, and couldn't really tell what was different from five minutes ago since I pointed my shiny new Eclipse at an existing workspace. I was left with the question, "why did I just upgrade?"

I'll open a FR, but I think we could/should leverage the Welcome screen to show some exciting What's New info even if we're working on an existing workspace.

I did file some bugs for the horrible look of Eclipse on Linux. Apparently my version of GTK 3 and/or oxygen theme has something to do with it.


On 06/29/2015 04:45 AM, Mickael Istria wrote:
* Overall, some interest and enthusiasm. Even people who don't like
Eclipse love to talk about it ;)
* Dark Theme still not perfect
* JDT completion not perfect with Java 8 (it was highlighter in an
EclipseCon France talk: )
* Questionable benefit of the Mars .app and installer
But there are some good arguments in this thread to defend Eclipse
against IntelliJ:
* The lack of incremental builder in IntelliJ is unacceptable for some users
* Swing-based APIs are uglier than SWT-based ones in much cases.
As usual, those who say bad things against Eclipse seem to not have
started it since Kepler.

I'm a bit surprised by the lack of feedback on the nested projects
thing. It seems to be too hidden for most users to find it (since many
packages use the Package Explorer view, which doesn't even provide the
feature; and since even if user open the Project Explorer the feature is
off by default). However, everyone who finds this feature seems to be
immediately very pleased with it, that's already good.
Mickael Istria
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