Re: [ide-dev] Cross-platform free Visual Studio

["Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 30 Apr 2015, at 18:33, Fabio Zadrozny wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Michael Scharf <eclipse@xxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
>
> > On 2015-04-30 7:16, Mickael Istria wrote:
> > > I'm more curious on how this will affect Sublime Text and maybe
> > > even IntelliJ WebStorm popularity.
> >
> > It seems that now IDEs pop up every day:
> >
> > Facebook announced a cross platform cross language IDE called
> > Nuclide (http://nuclide.io). It is not (yet) available, but they
> > claim it can be used for web and mobile development and in contrast
> > to sublime they support code completion and navigation. Their
> > claim is that classical IDEs like eclipse/XCode are slow and
> > heavy weight and therefore they slow down the development process.
> >
> > They also claim, that for Objective-C they use the command line
> > tools to do code completion and navigation.
> >
> > Nuclide is used internally at facebook and is based on githubs
> > atom editor (https://atom.io) which is written in javascript...
> > Therefore it is "hackable" for many developers.
> >
> > Considering the fact, that writing eclipse plug-ins is *very*
> > difficult, solutions like Sublime (python) and Atom (Javascript)
> > make it much easier to integrate existing tools.
> >
> > If you compare the complexity of integrating tools in those
> > "hackable" IDEs/Editors with the effort to write eclipse
> > plugins, it is quite humbling. Take the integration of a
> > javascript linting tool, like http://eslint.org
> > or http://jshint.com into Sublime:
> >
> > https://github.com/roadhump/SublimeLinter-eslint/blob/master/linter.py
> >
> > https://github.com/SublimeLinter/SublimeLinter-jshint/blob/master/linter.py
> >
> > Or the integration into the atom editor:
> >
> >
> > https://github.com/AtomLinter/linter-eslint/blob/master/lib/linter-eslint.coffee
> > https://github.com/Joezo/atom-jshint/blob/master/lib/atom-jshint.js
> >
> > Compare this with the effort it takes to integrate such
> > external tools into eclipse (I cannot find a eslint integration)
> >
> > https://github.com/eclipsesource/jshint-eclipse
> >
> > The new IDEs embrace the command line and instead of rewriting
> > external tools, they easily integrate them. This is what I always
> > thought that the 'I' in IDE stands for...
> >
> >
> > Michael
>
> ​Well, http://www.liclipse.com/ will get there soon to enable such
> integrations into Eclipse ;)

yes, I like what I see in LiClipse.

> Adding a new language is currently already available by creating a 
> single
> new ".liclipse" file and putting it into the proper place... (
> http://www.liclipse.com/supported_languages.html)

Know of any plans on submitting it to Eclipse.org so it can be used more 
broadly ? :)

/max
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