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Re: [ee4j-community] Initial Committer Lists & Project Meritocracy

On 03/12/17 20:47, Dmitry Kornilov wrote:
> We tried to be careful creating initial committers lists, but we are
> humans and can make mistakes. :)
> If someone supposed to be there, but not included, please add a comment
> to a proposal or contact PMC or me directly. We will discuss it on the
> following PMC meeting and make a decision. All projects proposals are on
> public review now. This is right time to address this kind of issues.
> 
> We included people in initial committers lists using the following rules:
> 
> 1. GitHub project committers with 5+ commits. Committers who didnât
> expose email address on GitHub were NOT added. Email must be filled to
> add a committer. It may be an issue. To get added, see above.
> 2. EG members are NOT added automatically. They are added only if they
> had 5+ commits.

That criteria is flawed. For the EGs I have been involved in (Servlet,
WebSocket and - less recently - UEL and JSP) the only people able to
commit to the repositories were the spec lead and (in some cases) one
other Oracle employee.

I would say it would be better to look at the mailing list archives as
well to see who was active but since the migration off java.net I
haven't been able to find where, if anywhere, the mailing lists were
migrated to.

> All APIs are already released which assumes all EGs
> disbanded. Again, if someone from EG wants to join as initial committer,
> see above.

Will do.

Mark


> 3. There are a bunch of initial committers from vendors which will
> support projects in future.>
> âDmitry
> 
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2017, at 16:19, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:john.d.ament@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I want to raise a comment on one of the proposals to this group, to
>> make sure its not lost and see if PMC members or other committers have
>> any comments on it.
>>
>> Mark Thomas raised a comment about Initial Committers, and how they
>> seem to be missing some Expert Group
>> members:Âhttps://projects.eclipse.org/comment/252#comment-252
>>
>> I'm wondering, as well, are expert group members encouraged to sign
>> up? Should they be explicitly solicited to join the projects?
>>
>> Likewise, for the RI projects, how are the initial committers
>> gathered? As a for instance, if I compare the OpenMQ contributor list
>> and initial committers:
>>
>> https://github.com/javaee/openmq/graphs/contributors
>> https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-openmq
>>
>> They seem to be misaligned. In other organizations, I recommend new
>> projects to limit initial committers to those who are actively working
>> on the project, and work on community building to add potential new
>> contributors to the project after the fact; typically after they've
>> established a level of meritocracy on the project.
>>
>> John
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