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Re: [ee4j-community] Initial Committer Lists & Project Meritocracy
- From: Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:18:27 +0000
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On 03/12/17 20:47, Dmitry Kornilov wrote:
> We tried to be careful creating initial committers lists, but we are
> humans and can make mistakes. :)
> If someone supposed to be there, but not included, please add a comment
> to a proposal or contact PMC or me directly. We will discuss it on the
> following PMC meeting and make a decision. All projects proposals are on
> public review now. This is right time to address this kind of issues.
> We included people in initial committers lists using the following rules:
> 1. GitHub project committers with 5+ commits. Committers who didnât
> expose email address on GitHub were NOT added. Email must be filled to
> add a committer. It may be an issue. To get added, see above.
> 2. EG members are NOT added automatically. They are added only if they
> had 5+ commits.
That criteria is flawed. For the EGs I have been involved in (Servlet,
WebSocket and - less recently - UEL and JSP) the only people able to
commit to the repositories were the spec lead and (in some cases) one
other Oracle employee.
I would say it would be better to look at the mailing list archives as
well to see who was active but since the migration off java.net I
haven't been able to find where, if anywhere, the mailing lists were
> All APIs are already released which assumes all EGs
> disbanded. Again, if someone from EG wants to join as initial committer,
> see above.
> 3. There are a bunch of initial committers from vendors which will
> support projects in future.>
>> On 3 Dec 2017, at 16:19, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:john.d.ament@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> I want to raise a comment on one of the proposals to this group, to
>> make sure its not lost and see if PMC members or other committers have
>> any comments on it.
>> Mark Thomas raised a comment about Initial Committers, and how they
>> seem to be missing some Expert Group
>> I'm wondering, as well, are expert group members encouraged to sign
>> up?Â Should they be explicitly solicited to join the projects?
>> Likewise, for the RI projects, how are the initial committers
>> gathered?Â As a for instance, if I compare the OpenMQ contributor list
>> and initial committers:
>> They seem to be misaligned.Â In other organizations, I recommend new
>> projects to limit initial committers to those who are actively working
>> on the project, and work on community building to add potential new
>> contributors to the project after the fact; typically after they've
>> established a level of meritocracy on the project.
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