Re: [eclipse-scripting-dev] Requesting a stable update site for EASE

[Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The individual download pages make no mention of the unrefined nature of the downloads.

e.g. http://download.eclipse.org/e4/downloads/drops/R-0.14-201306242200/index.html

There is no way that somebody who stumbles up on this page could know that the 0.14 download has not undergone a release review.

"0.14-checkpoint" suggests to me that there will be a 0.14 release.

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but I don't see this as semantic quibbling. These are effectively releases that you are encouraging the community to download and use. If there is functionality within the project that has reached the point where it needs this sort of exposure, it's time to find a new home for it.

I recommend that you work with the PMC to sort out a solution.

Wayne

On 11/20/2013 03:48 PM, Paul Webster wrote:

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

They look exactly like official releases to me. They're labeled "Release Builds" on the project download page.

That's because the page was copied from the eclipse project.  That's the easiest thing to fix.

 

According to the EDP (section 6.4):

"Official Releases are the only downloads allowed to be labeled with x.y, e.g., 0.5, 1.0, 2.3, etc."

As is this. (0.14-checkpoint for example).

 

"Under no circumstances are builds and milestones to be used as a substitute for doing proper official Releases. Proper Release management and reviews is a key aspect of Eclipse Quality."

This is harder.  I wouldn't want to break the spirit of this requirement, but need checkpoints to widen the adoption of E4 incubator projects both to promote stability and to separate out the different phases of the incubator projects (some checkpoints work with Juno, some with Kepler, and soon to be some with Luna).  I'm open to suggestions.

But their not release quality, we release these different components by graduating them into the Eclipse project proper (or as you say the graduate to their own project, like Orion).

But then it's semantic quibbling.  What's the difference between a release and a checkpoint except with our checkpoint we don't guarantee quality or provide proper bookkeeping, we just provide stable consumable update sites.

Later,
PW

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