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Re: [eclipse-ide-wg] jarsigning vs jetty (and others)

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On 09.09.2021 11:54, Mélanie Bats wrote:
Hi Mickael,

Le 09/09/2021 à 11:26, Mickael Istria a écrit :
Is there any news here?

Yes this was discussed during the planning council on monday and at the steering committee on tuesday.

The Steering Committee minutes were posted here:

If minutes take a long time to be released, wouldn't it be possible for someone who attended to the meeting to summarize the conclusions?
You were an elected board member so you know bit about how such formal processes work: minutes are reviewed and approved via a vote.  I'm not sure anyone is (I as elected committer representative am) authorized to speak with the voice of the Steering Committee.
I find it a bit frustrating that bringing discussions and getting answers about desired IDE future seems way less straightforward and agile than with usual processes (eg good old mailing-list discussions).

The planning council minutes are online since monday. You can chekc them here :

I think you've made your doubt and frustrations clear on multiple occasions already so there's probably no need to revisit that point.

The planning council mailing list did already include an update on this subject some time ago:

The platform project has a representative on the planning council.  You can communicate with your project's representative...

We decided with the planning council that we need to discuss that with the community to get the different inputs and requirements before taking a decision. Ed Merks will open a bugzilla dedicated to this issue, the discussion will go on their and when we will have received enough inputs the planning council will statute.

Yes, though I'm not sure a Bugzilla discussion with opinions from the few people who care is the best way to reach a decision on a such a complex and sensitive topic.  The meandering path of the following closely related Bugzilla has me a little concerned:

At least, is it possible to know what entity is going to have the final say here: planning council or working group? If discussion should take place with Planning Council, I'll happily ask there instead.

The planning council is in charge of this kind of decision, the steering committee as already express their intent which was : Build artifacts made available at the Eclipse Foundation are verifiably the ones built by respective projects.

I look forward to formulating a cohesive strategy backed up by facts and documentation.   I think it's very helpful that you've proposed and implemented an alternative...

Best regards,

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