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RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Project success metric

Hi Martin,


Rather than start with a blog, can we instead start on the mailing lists and newsgroups for each of the projects? That will reach the developers who are either lurking or participating. IMO, if a company hasn’t shown up on a mailing list to ask questions about commercial integration challenges, it’s unlikely that they’re going to suddenly show up because we blogged.


Also, I would like to get an initial list assembled as quickly as possible.




From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:56 AM
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Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Project success metric




once we have a blog for this, writing individual E-Mails

or newsgroup entries will certainly be easier.


The blog should include a PERSONAL E-mail

address, allowing people to write back (and not

force them write back to the public mailing list,

just to ensure a bit more privacy). In the end the

study is asking for statistics and not for company

names, right)?


We could probably set up a temporary gmail

address like dsdp-survey@xxxxxxxxx which

forwards all responses to the project leads.

How does that sound?




Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River

Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member




From: Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Freitag, 23. Mai 2008 10:54
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Cc: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Project success metric
Importance: High

Hi Mark,


this fall I've been asking community members about this kind of

information for a Press Release. I've simply been E-Mailing

personal contacts, mailing list members, bugzilla commenters

as well as blogging and asking on the newsgroup.


The amount of feedback was quite good, I got specific information

about approx. ten adopters; 5 of which finally agreed to get named

in a press release.

Given that information in a Press Release is even more sensitive

than for a University Study, I'd hope that I get good feedback with

forwarding this request on our communication channels (mailing

list, newsgroup, blog, personal contacts).


Since blogs are aggregated on planeteclipse (and this is probably

the prime way in which they are read), I would suggest that we

have ONE blog asking this information for all of DSDP. Doug would

you like to blog this, or should I?




Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River

Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member




From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Rogalski
Sent: Freitag, 23. Mai 2008 04:20
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Subject: Re: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Project success metric

I would love to have this kind of information. Problem is that community adopters of the projects very rarely talk about who they work for and what they are doing. When I've asked for Eclipse's help to determine who is downloading eRCP, this information was generally thought to be private. So in that case, I think divulging any info that has not been explicitly revealed by community members might not be a good idea.


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05/22/2008 08:41 PM

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[dsdp-pmc] FW: Project success metric


Hi folks,
See below. Can I get a list of commercial products / companies that use the technology from each of the DSDP projects? This is probably good information to gather periodically anyway, but in this case it’s for a study.
Thanks in advance,
From: Heather (Hiba) Enayat [mailto:hiba.enayat@xxxxxxxxx]
Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:19 PM
Gaff, Doug
Project success metric


Dear Doug,
I am wrting to you as a follow-up of a discussion with Bjorn Freeman.

I am a graduate student at Carleton University, enrolled in the Technology Innovation Management program. My thesis is on the topic of "Open source project diversity and success" and will be based on data from Eclipse. My supervisor is prof. Stoyan Tanev (tanev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, cell 613-291-3105).
In my study I need to define project success and need to ask you one question. Please answer it at your convenience.

- Do you know how many commercial parties have adopted the software developed within the scope of the activities of your project, and if possible, can you list them?
Your response will be critical for the finalization of my study as well as for its potential value for Eclipse.
Thank you very much advance.
Kind regards,

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