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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [WARNING] SimRel Headed Off the Tracks


Comments below.

On 30.01.2020 16:25, Stephan Herrmann wrote:
On 30.01.20 13:58, Ed Merks wrote:
On 30.01.2020 11:53, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
Well, focus on "what" is quite important as I still haven't seen anywhere written what exactly is needed for the "who" decides to take EPP. There won't be any "who" until "what" is clearly defined.

That is indeed a good point.  :-)

Markus didn't announce here despite being prompted, and while I'm sure he's documented what exactly he does, even I don't know exactly what that is.  I don't expect it's all that onerous.  In any case, in this thread you can see that he's offered to walk someone through the steps:

Looking from a distance I wonder:

* Is building "the packages" an effort X multiplied by the number of packages?
No, I don't think so.  The build might take x times longer but it's not x times more work.

* What's the difference between downloading a package and installing the
  equivalent software via the installer?
In principle there should be no difference.
  - After installation, are there any user-observable differences?
Again, in principle there should be no observable difference either.  And I'm not using "in principle" because I know any differences in practice.  I don't believe there are any.
  - What is the effort of maintaining the corresponding Oomph setups?
Like with many of the other scenarios, when all goes well, it's automated so not a huge workload, i.e., it's generated from the two repos and there might not actually be any differences between milestones.   But when things go wrong, it can take arbitrary time to track it down.
  - What exactly would we loose if installer would be the only download option?

If the installer doesn't work, there's no alternative.  Sometimes folks can't do anything with networks.  Sometimes firewalls block everything.

I think in the end, none of these established things need to be so much work, as long as it all goes smoothly.  But then whatever always goes smoothly?  Nothing.  I'm quite the expert at figuring out why p2 won't/can't resolve something...

In the end though, there is much room for improving the process, not only to help make it run more smoothly, but to improve the quality.


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