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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [WARNING] SimRel Headed Off the Tracks

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:38 PM Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Of course there's no such thing as a bad question, but I think the
question below is kind of the wrong question at this point in time.   At
this point, the "we" who are doing the tasks, time consuming or trivial,
as I've already spelled out are Fred, Markus, and Ed.   Fred will
continue to do what's needed, so we can expect the M2 train repo leave
the station as usual, and can expect that to continue into the future. 
So the train repo functions even in the face of complacency, so perhaps
we ought to strike that from the discussion, until Fred (the Foundation)
threatens to stop doing this.  But Markus will not continue do to what's
needed, so who will make sure M2 packages arrive?  No one. This problem
is imminent. It will not be solved because Fred or I have less work on
other "unnecessary but time consuming tasks". Of course Ed can probably
be counted on to do what he always does, so we can all at least hope
that he just does his usual thing. Maybe even assume that he'll just do
Markus' thing too because Ed is crazy.

So it seems to me we cannot focus so much on the "what" as long as there
is no "who".  I.e., I think it's misguided to assume we can squeeze a
"who" out of thin air by changing the definition of what needs to be
done.  M2 definitely needs to happen...

Well, focus on "what" is quite important as I still haven't seen anywhere written what exactly is needed for the "who" decides to take EPP. There won't be any "who" until "what" is clearly defined.

On 30.01.2020 10:45, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>  Until there are signs of new resources we have to ask "What is the
> least needed time consuming task we can stop doing ?" so progress on
> the good ideas can happen.
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Alexander Kurtakov
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