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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

From: <cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: The Eclipse Foundation
Reply-To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 4:44 PM
To: "cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

Is maybe the first step to make it look and act like everything that's already on the tool bar?

The New Connection is what it would look like and -1 to that.

The issue is that you’re showing 16 pixel high images and text in a combo boxes. You need at least two pixels of margin to make that look good plus the border giving you 22 pixels high, right now there’s 5 pixels of margin height giving us more like 28 pixels. Given that buttons are 32 pixels square, it’s a little unbalanced as it is. But you can’t really have the buttons smaller than the combos. That would look dumb.

Frankly, I like the idea of pushing the metaphors that we use and challenging look and feel assumptions. I actually quite like the look of the Launch Bar. It does, however, stand out like a sore thumb.

You should have heard what the UX designers we were working with though of the current Eclipse look and feel (a bunch of crazy Swedes from Malmo :) ). They insisted that all images should be no smaller than 32 pixel and all icons that you hardly use should be removed. We’ve already toned down the original design. If you get a chance, take a look at the first BlackBerry Momentics IDE that the launch bar appeared in. When our product manager first showed it at a dev conference, one of the audience members came up after and gave him a hug thanking him for all the great work we’ve done to make it easier to use. You know you’re doing something right when that happens.

The buttons need to be reactive.

Yup, I there’s a bug open on that already.


On 09/12/15 04:32 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
It would be good to show it off and maybe it¹ll
spark in someone a way to make it not look like crap.

Wayne Beaton
The Eclipse Foundation
          NA 2016
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