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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

We are not allowed to collect any usage stats, so "gut feeling" is the
most scientific tool available to us.

Sorry, could not resist.


On 2014-03-27, 19:26, Doug Schaefer wrote:
I understand your frustration. I think your efforts would be better
spent though trying to convince the community to action with hard data,
like the number of users who are switching to Java 8 right now that
can't figure out how to install the feature patch. Is there a bug report
where this is being gathered?


*From:* cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Konstantin
Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:03 PM
*To:* 'Cross project issues'
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

You seem to be saying that I don’t know how these releases are put
together or who does the work. That’s low.

You are quite right that there is no consensus. It is quite sad to see
this. There is lots of talk about needing to make ensure that Eclipse
remains competitive, but when time comes to do something concretely
towards that, there is little interest. Let there be no mistake, it is a
bad completive position to have Eclipse ship official Java 8 support
three months behind the competition. For developers immersed in Eclipse
internals daily, it may not seem like a big deal to ask users to seek
out and install various patches or to use a Luna pre-release build or to
just wait, but average users don’t see it that way.

- Konstantin

[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
*Doug Schaefer
*Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:35 PM
*To:* mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; Cross project issues
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

Yes, you have to remember, the Foundation doesn't put together releases,
the projects do. And Mike is correct, there isn't consensus from the
projects that a Kepler SR3 is warranted versus putting resources on
Luna. The feature patch install is easy and just needs to be made more
visible, as Mike is proposing to do.



[cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Mike
Milinkovich [mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:43 PM
*To:* 'Cross project issues'
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

On 27/03/2014 1:28 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:

    Well, it is more work, but it shouldn’t be a lot of work since the
    bulk of it is automated and I would think that the value to Eclipse
    community and Eclipse reputation would outweigh the investment.

My impression is that there is no consensus that a Kepler SR3 is
desirable. That is part of the reason why we're proposing the steps
outlined in my email from earlier today.

In any event, I think that posting on this thread was a mistake. I've
started a new thread and will hopefully get some feedback on what the EF
is proposing to do.

Mike Milinkovich
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>

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