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Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
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Hi,
a customer has requested some on-site support during
the second half of September.
So, it is highly likely I will be unable to attend a summit
at that time.
I'm disappointed but apparently customers trump
developers. Who knew? :-)
Marc
On my side I will be away on
travel.
Marc Khouzam and others from Ericsson will most
likely be also traveling, he will confirm when he is back from
vacation.
I signed up but I don't yet know if I have travel
approved.
===========================
Chris Recoskie
Team Lead,
IBM CDT and RDT
IBM Toronto
Alena Laskavaia ---08/05/2011 11:31:42 PM---There is only 10
ppl signed up, are we still doing it? Can people make it on these dates
below?
From: |
Alena Laskavaia <elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx> |
To: |
"CDT General developers list."
<cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> |
Date: |
08/05/2011 11:31 PM |
Subject: |
Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011 |
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cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx |
There is only 10 ppl signed up, are we still doing it? Can
people make
it on these dates below?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:56
AM, Alena Laskavaia
<elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We
booked Sept 21-23 (Wed-Fri)
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:40
AM, Alena Laskavaia
> <elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>> The largest room I can book in RIM is for 25 people.
Assuming this
>> would be in Ottawa, Mid-End September can you
please update wiki page
>> to see would go, so I can
count.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Marc
Khouzam
>> <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
Thanks Elena, that would be great.
>>>
>>>>
-----Original Message-----
>>>> From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alena Laskavaia
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19,
2011 11:26 AM
>>>> To: CDT General developers
list.
>>>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>>
>>>> I will talk to RIM about
face-to-face in September (Ottawa), if
>>>> anybody is still
interested
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at
9:49 AM, Marc Khouzam
>>>> <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>>> > So we all agree that we need two
things:
>>>> > 1- some type of planning meeting in
September
>>>> > 2- a face-to-face meeting at some
point
>>>> >
>>>> > Up to now, no one
has stepped-up to organize a face-to-face
>>>> in September
(or
>>>> > another time).
>>>> > (Doing
it at Ericsson was a lot of work for me last year so
>>>> I
like the
>>>> > EclipseCon idea
better).
>>>> > Unless Chris thinks it can be done at
IBM...
>>>> >
>>>> > So I suggest we try
to plan the face-to-face for EclipseCon
>>>> or else we
might
>>>> > not have a face-to-face
>>>>
> at all. Note that the OSGi DevCon has been doing the
same
>>>> for some time.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Last year, the multi-core debug meeting was a
big success.
>>>> However, having
>>>> >
only one timeslot
>>>> > left me with the feeling of
unfinished business. I think
>>>> we should plan
for
>>>> > two days and have a
>>>> >
detailed agenda, people can then decide if they want
stay
>>>> for the full two
>>>> > days or
not.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sunday-Monday is the
option that allows us to be in the best shape.
>>>> >
Thursday-Friday avoids having to work on the weekend.
>>>>
> Sunday-Friday does not overlap with EclipseCon, but will
be
>>>> exhausting
>>>> > We can try to
figure out what the community likes best on the wiki.
>>>>
>
>>>> > The nice thing about all this is that it is
very low
>>>> risk/effort. It is
>>>>
> almost a freebie with EclipseCon.
>>>>
>
>>>> > What is somewhat urgent is knowing which days
we could get
>>>> a big enough room
>>>> >
at EclipseCon.
>>>> > It does not matter which days we
prefer if we can't get a
>>>> room (and a
>>>>
> projector) for those days.
>>>> >
>>>>
> Doug, as the puppet master this year :-) can you tell
us
>>>> which days would be
>>>> > best for
a room (or two)?
>>>> > I can then update the wiki to see
what the community
>>>> response will be.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Thanks
>>>>
>
>>>> > Marc
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:46 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Sure, we can
offer up the options.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > I plan on being very
busy at EclipseCon, though, and will
>>>> not attend
full
>>>> > day sessions for CDT. But you don't need me
there for the
>>>> whole thing.
>>>> >
Everything I need to participate in will happen in
September.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:32 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > I agree that we might be tired on Friday,
however people
>>>> might prefer to do
>>>>
> that instead of having a second trip.
>>>>
>
>>>> > We can also investigate other options like
Sun-Mon (like
>>>> the IBM Rational
>>>> >
conf :-).
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe we can put the
different options (Thu-Fri, Sun-Mon,
>>>> Sun and
Thu) on
>>>> > the wiki and see what the developers
prefer.
>>>> >
>>>> > The last
summit was 3 days and we had to close the
>>>>
registration because too
>>>> > many people wanted to
come, we will have plenty of things
>>>> to discuss
for at
>>>> > least 2 days.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Having just a few hours doesn't seem to
be enough.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>>
> Sent: 18-Jul-11 15:56
>>>> > To: CDT General
developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > I dunno, I still have
the mental scars from our last
>>>> attempt at a
EcilpseCon
>>>> > Friday meeting (way burned out by
then).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > But I will have a pretty big room if tradition
holds and
>>>> will throw a CDT
>>>> >
party some time during the week J.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Doug.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Marc Khouzam
>>>> >
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:30 PM
>>>> > To: 'CDT
General developers list.'
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > The idea of an
eSummit in September is probably the easiest
>>>> way to get
the
>>>> > plan done for Juno and get things
started.
>>>> >
>>>> > I like
that. But I also agree that the face-to-face part
>>>>
is very valuable.
>>>> > So, the idea of having the
same type of
>>>> >
>>>> > meeting as
last year, but co-located with EclipseCon,
>>>> sounds great
to me.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From what we saw in previous years, we need
enough time to
>>>> discuss the many
>>>> >
different topics, and to allow
>>>> >
>>>>
> people to find their common interests and see how they
can
>>>> collaborate
>>>> > together.
And we also need
>>>> >
>>>> >
time for deep dives such as multi-core, build, codan,
etc.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Co-locating a full CDT Summit with
EclipseCon
>>>> (Thursday/Friday) only
extends
>>>> > the trip by one day, and we get the
full
>>>> >
>>>> > benefit of a
face-face event. And organization will be
>>>> much
easier :-) It
>>>> > may also help some people
justify going to
>>>> >
>>>> >
EclipseCon as a two-in-one trip.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> So, couldn't we plan a two-day face-to-face CDT Summit
on
>>>> the Thursday and
>>>> > Friday of
EclipseCon?
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Marc
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> ________________________________
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I wasn't
talking about replacing the face to face,
>>>> just having
that
>>>> > component at EclipseCon. I tend to meet more
new community
>>>> members at
>>>> >
EclipseCon than the CDT Summit anyway.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> We do need to have a plan in place by the end of
September
>>>> (and the Eclipse
>>>> >
board would actually prefer we have it earlier, but we
get
>>>> some leeway
>>>> > there), and
should have interactive meetings on the issues
>>>> we need
to
>>>> > address and new features that feed into that
plan. And it's
>>>> pretty much a
>>>> >
given now that not every committer is able to make a
summit
>>>> anyway, I think
>>>> > an
eSummit would fill our needs. And next year, if someone
>>>>
wants to hold it
>>>> > and organize early, we can try
again at a full summit.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
:D
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Marc-Andre Laperle
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:45 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > March 26-29 is really
late in the development cycle. To me,
>>>> the
summit
>>>> > should be about planning Juno, discussing
architecture,
>>>> potential solutions
>>>>
> to hard problems we want fixed in Juno.
>>>>
>
>>>> > On 11-07-18 2:22 PM, Dominique Toupin
wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Replacing a 3
days face to face summit by an online meeting
>>>> will not
benefit
>>>> > the community, I think its very good if we
can keep the
>>>> face to face
event.
>>>> >
>>>> > Many
people dial-in but they typically work on something
>>>>
else, we do not
>>>> > have the evening/lunch event when
people can discuss further, etc.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Looking at other open source projects/foundations they do a lot
of
>>>> > co-located events (e.g LinuxCon and Tracing
Summit), I had
>>>> a quick chat with
>>>>
> Ian from the Eclipse Foundation, he thinks it's a good
idea
>>>> to co-locate the
>>>> > summit
with EclipseCon, possibly Thursday/Friday as long as
>>>> we
plan ahead to
>>>> > ensure we have a conf
room available at
>>>> http://reston.hyatt.com (as
program
>>>> > chair, I am sure you can make it
happen).
>>>> >
>>>> > Co-locating with
EclipseCon has a few benefits:
>>>> >
>>>>
> - Less travel (EclipseCon + Summit same
place/date)
>>>> >
>>>> > - No
sponsors/funding to find
>>>> >
>>>> >
- No local logistics (room, special events, lunch, dinner,
etc.)
>>>> >
>>>> > - more
developers are likely to come
>>>>
>
>>>> > - Reston is 8.5 hours drive from
Toronto
>>>> >
>>>> > -
etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > The only down side I
see is it's not a good timing to plan
>>>> for the
next
>>>> > release so we could do as you suggested i.e.
an online
>>>> meeting in September
>>>> >
but hopefully a short one maybe half a day to start
and
>>>> then we can see if
>>>> > we need
extra ones for specific topics e.g. multi-core debug.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Co-locating with EclipseCon seems quite future proof to
me,
>>>> what do you
>>>> >
think?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>>
> Sent: 18-Jul-11 11:24
>>>> > To: CDT General
developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree. The time is
pretty short to organize a full blown summit in
>>>> >
September. But, we still need to have planning meetings
to
>>>> set the agenda
>>>> > for CDT in
Juno.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > What I'd like to propose is an eSummit instead
using a
>>>> conference bridge and
>>>> >
Webex. I was thinking of a block of four hours running
>>>>
noon-3 Ottawa time
>>>> > (give or take), which allows for
evening in Europe and morning in
>>>> > California. We
could start with two days like that and
>>>> expand if
needed.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > I would then propose
that we have a CDT get-together at
>>>> EclipseCon
next
>>>> > March. We had a really nice multi-core meeting
last year
>>>> and could do that
>>>> > for
CDT in general. We could do it for a couple of hours
>>>> and
be separate
>>>> > from the BOF which is a more open
meeting.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > What do you
think?
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
>>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi
Doug,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > It's not easy to plan/organize the CDT summit
in the middle
>>>> of
summer for a
>>>> > date
in Sept/Oct:
>>>> >
>>>> > -
many people are on vacation, it's hard to
get developers
>>>> to register;
>>>>
>
>>>> > - organizing the logistic in the middle
of summer was not
>>>> easy for us
last
>>>> > year again because of many people on vacations
and it was
>>>> hard to get big
>>>> > conf
room for Sept;
>>>> >
>>>> >
- in July many people are already booked for business trips
in the
>>>> > fall e.g. myself, Elena, Marc,
etc. if know more in
>>>> advanced it will
be
>>>> > easier to plan around the summit
date;
>>>> >
>>>> > - fall is a
busy time of the year for many people,
>>>> May/June is the
Eclipse
>>>> > release crunch and March is
EclipseCon...;
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > To get more
developers to join the summit we could either:
>>>>
>
>>>> > - do the plan/organization after the
Eclipse release and
>>>> held the summit
in
>>>> > Dec/Jan
>>>>
>
>>>> > - do the plan/org in May and
held the summit in Sept/Oct
>>>> >
>>>>
> - looking back at last March EclipseCon we
could
>>>> investigate if we can do
>>>>
> it Thursday and Friday
>>>> > (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2011/program/?programdate=2011-03-24)
>>>>
>
>>>> > - we could even investigate if we can do
it together with
>>>> the GCC summit
>>>> >
(http://www.gccsummit.org)
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Best Regards,
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Dominique
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> ________________________________
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>>
> Sent: 8-Jul-11 14:20
>>>> > To:
cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Subject: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Hey
gang,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Just a reminder to sign up for CDT Summit 2011
at
>>>> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/summitfall2011.
Notice a few
>>>> signed up already.
>>>> >
The more that show interest, the more we'll realize we
>>>>
really need to have
>>>> > one again
J.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>
>
>>>> > Doug.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>>>>
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