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I agree that we might be tired on Friday, however
people might prefer to do that instead of having a second
trip.
We can also investigate other options like Sun-Mon
(like the IBM Rational conf :-).
Maybe we can put the different options (Thu-Fri,
Sun-Mon, Sun and Thu) on the wiki and see what the developers
prefer.
The last summit was 3 days and we had to close the
registration because too many people wanted to come, we will have plenty of
things to discuss for at least 2 days.
Having just a few hours doesn't seem to
be enough.
I dunno, I still have the
mental scars from our last attempt at a EcilpseCon Friday meeting (way burned
out by then).
But I will have a pretty big
room if tradition holds and will throw a CDT party some time during the week
J.
Doug.
From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Marc Khouzam
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:30
PM
To: 'CDT General developers list.'
Subject: Re:
[cdt-dev] Summit 2011
The
idea of an eSummit in September is probably the easiest way to get the plan
done for Juno and get things started.
I like
that. But I also agree that the face-to-face part is very
valuable. So, the idea of having the same type of
meeting
as last year, but co-located with EclipseCon, sounds great to me.
From
what we saw in previous years, we need enough time to discuss the many
different topics, and to allow
people
to find their common interests and see how they can collaborate
together. And we also need
time for
deep dives such as multi-core, build, codan, etc.
Co-locating
a full CDT Summit with EclipseCon (Thursday/Friday) only extends the trip
by one day, and we get the full
benefit
of a face-face event. And organization will be much easier :-) It
may also help some people justify going to
EclipseCon
as a two-in-one trip.
So,
couldn't we plan a two-day face-to-face CDT Summit on the Thursday and Friday
of EclipseCon?
Thanks
Marc
From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58
PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re:
[cdt-dev] Summit 2011
Yes, I wasn’t talking about
replacing the face to face, just having that component at EclipseCon. I tend
to meet more new community members at EclipseCon than the CDT Summit
anyway.
We do need to have a plan in
place by the end of September (and the Eclipse board would actually prefer
we have it earlier, but we get some leeway there), and should have
interactive meetings on the issues we need to address and new features that
feed into that plan. And it’s pretty much a given now that not every
committer is able to make a summit anyway, I think an eSummit would fill our
needs. And next year, if someone wants to hold it and organize early, we can
try again at a full summit.
:D
From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Marc-Andre Laperle
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:45
PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re:
[cdt-dev] Summit 2011
March 26-29 is really late in the development cycle. To me, the summit should be about planning Juno, discussing architecture, potential solutions to hard problems we want fixed in Juno.
On 11-07-18 2:22 PM, Dominique Toupin wrote:
Replacing a
3 days face to face summit by an online meeting will not benefit the
community, I think its very good if we can keep the face to face
event.
Many
people dial-in but they typically work on something else, we do not
have the evening/lunch event when people can discuss further,
etc.
Looking
at other open source projects/foundations they do a lot of co-located events
(e.g LinuxCon and Tracing Summit), I had a quick chat with Ian from the
Eclipse Foundation, he thinks it's a good idea to co-locate the summit with
EclipseCon, possibly Thursday/Friday as long as we plan ahead to ensure
we have a conf room available at http://reston.hyatt.com (as program
chair, I am sure you can make it happen).
Co-locating
with EclipseCon has a few benefits:
-
Less travel (EclipseCon + Summit same place/date)
-
No sponsors/funding to find
-
No local logistics (room, special events, lunch, dinner, etc.)
-
more developers are likely to come
-
Reston is 8.5 hours drive from Toronto
-
etc.
The
only down side I see is it's not a good timing to plan for the next release
so we could do as you suggested i.e. an online meeting in September
but hopefully a short one maybe half a day to start and then we
can see if we need extra ones for specific topics e.g. multi-core
debug.
Co-locating
with EclipseCon seems quite future proof to me, what do you
think?
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: 18-Jul-11
11:24
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re:
[cdt-dev] Summit 2011
I agree. The time is
pretty short to organize a full blown summit in September. But, we still
need to have planning meetings to set the agenda for CDT in
Juno.
What I’d like to propose
is an eSummit instead using a conference bridge and Webex. I was thinking
of a block of four hours running noon-3 Ottawa time (give or take), which
allows for evening in Europe and morning in California. We could start
with two days like that and expand if needed.
I would then propose that
we have a CDT get-together at EclipseCon next March. We had a really nice
multi-core meeting last year and could do that for CDT in general. We
could do it for a couple of hours and be separate from the BOF which is a
more open meeting.
What do you
think?
Doug.
Hi
Doug,
It's
not easy to plan/organize the CDT summit in the middle of
summer for a date in Sept/Oct:
-
many people are on vacation, it's hard to get developers to
register;
-
organizing the logistic in the middle of summer was not easy for us
last year again because of many people on vacations and it was hard to get
big conf room for Sept;
- in
July many people are already booked for business trips in the
fall e.g. myself, Elena, Marc, etc. if know more in advanced it
will be easier to plan around the summit date;
-
fall is a busy time of the year for many people, May/June is the Eclipse
release crunch and March is EclipseCon...;
To
get more developers to join the summit we
could either:
-
do the plan/organization after the Eclipse release and held the summit in
Dec/Jan
-
do the plan/org in May and held the summit in
Sept/Oct
-
looking back at last March EclipseCon we could investigate if we
can do it Thursday and Friday (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2011/program/?programdate=2011-03-24)
-
we could even investigate if we can do it together with the GCC summit
(http://www.gccsummit.org)
Best
Regards,
Dominique
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: 8-Jul-11
14:20
To: cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:
[cdt-dev] Summit 2011
Hey gang,
Just a reminder to sign up for CDT Summit 2011 at http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/summitfall2011.
Notice a few signed up already. The more that show interest, the more
we’ll realize we really need to have one again J.
Cheers,
Doug.
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