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Re: [asciidoc-lang-dev] Whitespace handling
  • From: Sylvain Leroux <sylvain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:08:43 +0100
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On 09/03/2021 01:20, Lex Trotman wrote:
> [...] Remember mine is an experiment, so using
> plain code allows me to play with all sorts of things, several of which
> turned out to be bad ideas, but now I know that :-).

Same thing here. The difference is I implemented my own PEG engine. But
all this is highly experimental to say the least.

> 
> Of course since the PEG is only text in the spec its cheap for me to
> extend it :-)
>  
> 
>     >
>     > I have found I needed to extend the PEG to handle nesting of sections
>     > and lists without writing out a limited depth set, how do you
>     address it?
>     >
>     For now, I use two separate PEGs. One is for the inline parser, the
>     other one for block-level parsing.
> 
>     The PEG for the inline parser is quite stable, and I don't encounter
>     significant difficulties when adding new features.
> 
>     The PEG for the block-level parsing is a different beast, though. It
>     replaces a (multiple times rewrote) hand-written parser. For now, it is
>     used as a tokenizer rather than a recursive descent parser. And the
>     actual block hierarchy construction is delegated to a stateful object in
>     the spirit of the factory method pattern
>     (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_method_pattern).
> 
>     I tried to implement a recursive grammar for the block-level parser. But
>     I struggled at finding a way to match the delimiter in nested blocks
>     like in:
> 
>       ====
> 
>        ======
> 
>        ======
> 
>       ====
> 
> 
> Ahh yes another extension I did was that all non-terminals and tokens
> can return a numeric value (if they match) and I added a simple syntax
> for assigning that value if its needed, and comparing it to the
> parameter passed to the non-terminal.  Tokens return a count of relevant
> characters that varies from token to token but is effectively the level
> for section/list tokens or length of delimiter for block delimiters. 
> The (simplified) syntax  for a "section" would be:
> 
> Section(level) ::= token_level = <start_line_equals>
> (:token_level==level:) Markup_text_line Section_contents *Section(level+1)
> 
> where <line_start_equals> is the token from the lexer, (:expression:) is
> a test that will fail the non-terminal if it fails, and name= assigns
> the value to name. These have the obvious implementation in code.
> 
>     I suspect there is an elegant way of doing that since PEG "can count",
>     but I yet have to find how. FWIW, I discovered PEG with this project, so
>     my knowledge of the technology is still fragile.
> 
> 

> I'm not aware that a formal PEG
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsing_expression_grammar) can count in
> a way that it can check context, eg number of equals is less, equal or
> more than current section level.  Of course any implementation of PEG in
> a programming language probably can use that language for the purpose,
> but the specification either needs some formal extension or the use of
> (shudder) words.  I'm in no way pushing my extensions, it just "works
> for me"(TM).

When I met the "PEG" acronym the first time, I searched it on Wikipedia.
I didn't find the article very enlightening. Fortunately, someone in the
V8 regex team pointed me toward the work of Roberto Ierusalimschy from
the PUC-Rio. He, and his colleagues, wrote great articles about Parsing
Expression Grammars. My PEG engine is an implementation of the virtual
machine described in "A Text Pattern-MatchingTool based on
ParsingExpression Grammars (2008)"
[http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/%7Eroberto/docs/peg.pdf]

Take also a look at "Converting regexes to Parsing Expression Grammars
(2010)" [http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/%7Eroberto/docs/ry10-01.pdf]

When I said "PEG can count", I mean it can find balanced expressions of
arbitrary depth, something _formal_ regular expression cannot (though
many implementations support some form of recursion as an extension).
Since blocks in AsciiDoc are defined as nested balanced markups, I
suspect we could find a way to express that without requiring extensions
to PEGs. But my attempts at doing that were unfruitful. And I lack
experience in the field to spot a possible flaw in my reasoning.

> 
> At the moment the spec and the code are out of sync and the code
> crashes, I want to fix that before I push to github "soon".

My code don't crash (thanks to JS), and all tests pass (most of the
time), but I'm not sure this can be useful to anyone. Anyhow it's on
github. If you want to take a look, the inline parser is here:
https://github.com/s-leroux/Asciishaman/blob/ce269f0a10ea7241cc8c1608db32d4a829150fc7/lib/inline-parser.js#L12
Feel free to comment ;)


Regards,
- Sylvain



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