Re: [paho-dev] Contribution of MQTT Servers (Mosquitto and RSMB)

["Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ian,

As you are going through the internal IBM approval process, please ensure
that dual-licensing the contribution under the EPL and the BSD (Eclipse
Distribution License or EDL) is specified. 

Thanks.

Mike Milinkovich
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
+1.613.220.3223


> -----Original Message-----
> From: paho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:paho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Roger Light
> Sent: August-14-13 10:03 AM
> To: General development discussions for paho project; Eclipse Management
> Organization
> Subject: Re: [paho-dev] Contribution of MQTT Servers (Mosquitto and RSMB)
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> I agree that option 1) makes the most sense. We might as well start out on
the
> right foot.
> 
> I'll look into getting the proposal into HTML and a presentation done in
the
> meantime. If there's anything you'd like to contribute to the latter I'd
be
> grateful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Ian Craggs
> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hmm.  I've just realized that I have more process to go through here
> > at IBM than I thought to get RSMB code released.  I thought I was near
> > the top of the hill, but it's just another ridge :-(  I hope it won't
> > take too long to really get to the top.
> >
> > The options I think we have:
> >
> > 1) wait a while for me to find out just how much longer it will take
> > for RSMB code to be released, or
> > 2) change the proposal a little to either a) omit the RSMB initial
> > contribution or b) make the RSMB initial contribution optional. If
> > option a) RSMB code could be contributed at a later date.
> >
> > I would prefer 1) because I would like IBM and RSMB to be there at the
> > start of the project, and I can use this fact in the internal IBM
> > discussions about the release of RSMB, but not if it all takes too long.
> >
> > Sorry about this.
> >
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > On 08/12/2013 09:28 PM, Roger Light wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> The changes look good to me, I think it's in pretty good shape now.
> >>
> >> I agree with what Ian says about code merging and just to add that I
> >> look forward to seeing the rsmb code and finding the bits that it
> >> does better than mosquitto.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Ian Craggs
> >> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ian, Mike,
> >>>
> >>> to answer the question of how Mosquitto and RSMB code bases will be
> >>> merged.
> >>>
> >>> My view is that this proposal is as much as a "declaration of intent"
> >>> from
> >>> IBM, as much as a contribution of code.   It will signal that the
future
> >>> of
> >>> RSMB is in open source, here in Eclipse.  That signal is for people
> >>> inside IBM as well as in the open source community.  Whether RSMB
> >>> code is actually used in a final Mosquitto product is secondary -
> >>> there will be no forced merging.
> >>>
> >>> IBM will have already contributed to the project: the design of MQTT
> >>> and much of the external behaviour of Mosquitto itself, which was
> >>> originally derived from RSMB.  The design of RSMB, though it looks
> >>> simple, was influenced by my years of experience with MQTT servers,
> >>> and with the collaboration of a number of other IBM folk, like Andy
> >>> Stanford-Clark, Dave Conway-Jones, Nick O'Leary and Dave Locke.
> >>>
> >>> There a few functions that exist in RSMB that do not currently in
> >>> Mosquitto
> >>> - some serviceability aids in RSMB were required by IBM to build a
> >>> supported
> >>> product for instance.   Both RSMB and the existing Mosquitto projects
use
> >>> conditional compilation to allow smaller, less functional
> >>> executables to be
> >>> built as desired.   If there is function which IBM wants, but the
> >>> Mosquitto
> >>> project leads do not, it could be applied by patch or conditional
> >>> compilation by IBM (but would still be open source).  If code from
> >>> RSMB is useful, having the codebase contributed already makes it
> >>> easy to pick and choose.
> >>>
> >>> Either way, I intend to contribute to the project, whether through
> >>> code or tests or documentation, or in other ways.  And we already
> >>> have a codebase which satisfies the draft aims of the project.
> >>>
> >>> Ian Craggs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 08/12/2013 04:56 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The proposal looks good to me. Has there been a discussion on how
> >>>>> the RSMB and Mosquitto code bases will be merged?
> >>>>
> >>>> Step one is to get both code bases contributed to a common project
> >>>> under the same license. Before that happens, the code merge
> >>>> conversation is rather moot. Especially since RSMB's code is not
> >>>> currently available in open source for others to see.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
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