Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] TCK process draft vote

[Scott Stark <sstark@xxxxxxxxxx>]

What I recall from our discussion on the topic is that we would allow the individual specification pages to have a list of compatible implementations that had completed a certification request. 

The platform specs that have logos and branding associated with them would require an additional trademark license agreement. I don’t think we explicitly called out the what would be on the platform specification page in terms of compatible implementations. I think some assumed that the implementations that had completed a certification request would have a listing on the spec page, and those that had also completed a trademark agreement would be listed on another jakarta.ee branding page.

The issue to the steering committee is whether or not to allow compatible implementations on the platform specification pages.

> On Jun 26, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Kazumura, Kenji <kzr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> But, the first paragraph of this section seems to provide vendors an option
> that their products can be listed on jakarata.ee without Jakarta EE trademark license.
> If I am the only person who interpret like above, this document is ok.
> 
> -Kenji Kazumura
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alasdair Nottingham
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 8:32 PM
>> To: Jakarta specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] TCK process draft vote
>> 
>> The first sentence of that section says it is self certification and the TCK license agreement lays out in section 4
>> what you do for that self certification process. The section in the TCK process is supplemental and necessary for
>> a) listing on Jakarta.ee as a compatible implementation and b) use of the Jakarta EE trademark.
>> 
>> My interpretation is a vendor can claim compatibility provided I follow section 4 of the TCK license, but they can’t
>> use the logo and won’t be listed on Jakarta.ee (the latter of which might raise eyebrows of users)
>> 
>> Alasdair Nottingham
>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 2:16 AM, Kazumura, Kenji <kzr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m sorry I may miss some discussions.
>>> Regarding the first paragraph of “Certification Compatibility” section,
>>> if a vendor's certification request is accepted but they do not sign the trademark license,
>>> what can they claim ?
>>> 
>>> It is clear they cannot claim "Our product is Jakarta EE compatible", but
>>> is it ok they can claim "Our product is certified by Jakarta EE working group" ?
>>> 
>>> I'm not clear how we should describe their product in jakarta.ee implementations page.
>>> 
>>> -Kenji Kazumura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Stark
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 1:08 PM
>>> To: Jakarta specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] TCK process draft vote
>>> 
>>> I think we have reached the point of a workable TCK process for the first release. The remaining issues are
>> outside the process doc and encapsulated in the 3 issues I sent out earlier. We can either vote by mail or in
>> tomorrow’s spec call if everyone is prepared to do so.
>>> 
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