| On 3/17/11 11:14 AM, Ian Skerrett wrote: 
      
      FWIW, I ran the Java IDE package and did not get any console
      message.   I am running on Windows 32 bit.
 Eric, shouldn't your concerns about m2eclipse be opened as a bug
      for that project.  It doesn't seem to be specific to a package?
 
 I thought about it, but as I said the automatic downloading might be
    desirable for people who explicitly choose m2e. It's a different
    story for the EPP packages.
 In any case, Pascal has said he's going to look into it.
 
 Eric
 
 
 
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      3/17/2011 10:54 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:
      On
        3/17/11 10:31 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote: 
 On 3/17/11 9:51 AM, Steffen Pingel
          wrote: 
 When I ran the Java package with a
            clean workspace on Gtk/x86_64 I got a lot of debug output on
            the console. The output was mostly from m2eclipse but also
            from other plugins: 
 340312: Indigo M6 logs lots of output
 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=340312
 
 Does that happen with other packages as well?
 
 I tried the JEE package on OS X, but I don't think that
          package includes m2eclipse.
 I do remember from my experience with m2e about 2 years ago
          that excessive console output was a major annoyance with it.
 I also wonder if it's been discussed that including m2eclipse
          in the Java package means that users will need to be using a
          JDK instead of a JRE (last I saw, m2e doesn't work correctly
          without a JDK and reminds the user of that every time at
          startup). Forgive me if this was already discussed and I
          missed it; I'm just concerned about the community side of
          things if all of a sudden the Java package changes it's
          pre-requisites and the intrusive UI that m2eclipse used to
          alert about it.
 
 Eric
 
 I just ran the Java package on OS X and didn't get any Console
        logging from m2e. However, it did kick off a long-running
        background job that's downloading somewhat large Maven
        repository index files. I'm concerned about this behavior; as a
        user I'm not too happy about software downloading large files
        into some unknown location on my machine without prompting or
        asking first. This might be expected by users who manually
        install Maven tools, but in the scenario where I just installed
        Eclipse for Java Developers, I don't think it should be doing
        that. I predict we're going to get plenty of
        questions/complaints about this on the forums.
 If m2e is really to be included in the most popular Eclipse
        package, can at least the setting that controls this behavior be
        turned off by default?
 
 Eric
 
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