| FWIW, I ran the Java IDE package and did not get any console
    message.   I am running on Windows 32 bit. 
 Eric, shouldn't your concerns about m2eclipse be opened as a bug for
    that project.  It doesn't seem to be specific to a package?
 
 Ian
 
 
 On 3/17/2011 10:54 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:
 On
      3/17/11 10:31 AM, Eric Rizzo wrote:
      
 On 3/17/11 9:51 AM, Steffen Pingel wrote:
        
 When I ran the Java package with a clean
          workspace on Gtk/x86_64 I got a lot of debug output on the
          console. The output was mostly from m2eclipse but also from
          other plugins:
          
 340312: Indigo M6 logs lots of output
 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=340312
 
 Does that happen with other packages as well?
 
 I tried the JEE package on OS X, but I don't think that package
        includes m2eclipse.
 I do remember from my experience with m2e about 2 years ago that
        excessive console output was a major annoyance with it.
 I also wonder if it's been discussed that including m2eclipse in
        the Java package means that users will need to be using a JDK
        instead of a JRE (last I saw, m2e doesn't work correctly without
        a JDK and reminds the user of that every time at startup).
        Forgive me if this was already discussed and I missed it; I'm
        just concerned about the community side of things if all of a
        sudden the Java package changes it's pre-requisites and the
        intrusive UI that m2eclipse used to alert about it.
 
 Eric
 
 I just ran the Java package on OS X and didn't get any Console
      logging from m2e. However, it did kick off a long-running
      background job that's downloading somewhat large Maven repository
      index files. I'm concerned about this behavior; as a user I'm not
      too happy about software downloading large files into some unknown
      location on my machine without prompting or asking first. This
      might be expected by users who manually install Maven tools, but
      in the scenario where I just installed Eclipse for Java
      Developers, I don't think it should be doing that. I predict we're
      going to get plenty of questions/complaints about this on the
      forums.
 If m2e is really to be included in the most popular Eclipse
      package, can at least the setting that controls this behavior be
      turned off by default?
 
 Eric
 
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