| Re: [ee4j-community] Help Pick the New Name for Java EE |
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This communication contains information that is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the recipient. If you are not the intended note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify us by email(info@xxxxxxxxxx) or phone (+54 11 3249 7503)Does the EE part of EE4J stand for Enterprise Edition? If so it may make benefit us to think along functional lines in terms of what "it" will do when considering a name.An example of this could simply be Enterprise Development for Java (ED4J). (<===)This is ONLY an example. Ultimately I think that whatever name is chosen should reflect "verb" like functional meaning.If it remains as EE4J, what meaning is this name meant to convey? Does it tell the write story? How will I know that I need it?--On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Steven Pousty <scitronp@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Anyway I supposed I should talk about it on the github issue, but that is going to just be some giant bike shedding exercise (or at least that is my concern)Has a nice short acronymIt is different enough to show it is no longer Java EEI am really not sure what is wrong with EE4J?It follows a pattern with history in our community (dom4j, log4j...)On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@eclipse-foundation.org > wrote:On 2017-11-21 2:37 PM, Guillermo González de Agüero wrote:
+1. The list is full of names starting with Java which are already out. But there are also names that *contain* the Java word, which use is a bit unclear.
Some hint on that would be useful.
Here is the basic rule as it has been explained to me. As a reminder, I am not a lawyer.
You can use "Java" only in a context that would be considered fair use under trademark law. Generally speaking the safest way to do that is to follow the "...for Java" pattern that you see in the EE4J name ("Eclipse Enterprise for Java").
So any name that starts with Java is a no-go.
Any name that embeds Java within it is a no-go.
A name that ends in Java is almost certainly a no-go unless it follows that "...for Java" pattern.
I think it is generally accepted that you can use the letter "J", as long as you don't imply that it stands for Java (e.g. IntelliJ, jClarity).
There is no rule that says if the name includes "...for Java" that you have to use "4J" in the acronym. So if we had wanted to we have have used EEJ instead of EE4J when we named the top-level project.
HTH
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Mike Milinkovich
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