Stefan,
Good point about the contribution. I've submitted the talk:
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2013/sessions/hallo-bonjour-%E4%BB%8A%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AF-hello-babel-tools-make-internationalization-easier
Denis
On 11/14/2012 10:36 AM, Stefan Strobl
wrote:
Denis,
thanks for your effort. I am sure you have a way better feeling of
how to adequately formulate the abstract and I think the result
below is really poignant. The only change that comes to my mind is
if we want to keep the name "TapiJI" in there or replace it with
Babel Tools, maybe pointing out the fact that there have been some
major contributions.
What do you think?
Regarding the speakers, I would say we should add Martin and me
from our side. If Kit wants to I would of of course also take him
gladly on board.
If you could do the submission, that would be great.
Cheers,
Stefan
On 13.11.2012 22:40, Denis Roy wrote:
Stefan,
A live demo of the plugins would be very good, and I'd prefer to
give the plugins lots of visibility for the 35-minute talk. I
only need about 10 minutes to demo the server translation tool
and to discuss the available language packs.
I'm a fan of brevity, so I've taken your EclipseCon 2012
submission, shortened it, and created a catchy title. If we
submit this, I think it will be accepted :-)
Please let me know you'd like to change anything, as well as the
co-speakers, and I'll submit the talk.
Thanks!
Denis
Title: Hallo, Bonjour, 今日は, Hello! Babel tools make
internationalization easier.
Building internationalization (i18n) into your project is a
pain. Maintaining translations of your projects is another.
Fortunately, Babel tools can help with both.
TapiJI provides a rich set of smart and context-aware i18n
aids in Eclipse, assisting developers in performing i18n as
part of their day-to-day work. Babel Translation server
enables communities to participate in the translation effort
using only a web browser.
In this session we will give a brief overview and demo of TapiJI
and its main features, as well as a live translation of an
Eclipse project using the Babel Translation server.
On 11/10/2012 03:16 AM, Stefan
Strobl wrote:
Denis,
sorry for the late reply... Concerning the topics: in 1 i
would like to extend beyond the scope of Eclipse
globalization, as TapiJI (and now the Babel plugins) clearly
go beyond. Maybe we can also talk a litte about common
problems when developing internationalised software etc... In
addition, what do you think about doing a short (5 min) live
demo of some of the new plugin features?
* Here's some of the slides we used for a demo camp
presentation in late 2010 (we also did a talk in 2011, but i
think we do not have the slides online. I'll see that I can
get them to you)
http://de.slideshare.net/martinreiterer/tapiji-am-eclipse-democamp
* A Demo Video we have done for our (declined) EclipseCon 2012
submission:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gDQeeIR5eU
* We are currently working on two DemoCamp presentations
(Vienna and Copenhagen). I am quite sure we can reuse some of
our content from there.
Anyway, if you could do a first draft of the abstract, that
would be great.
thank you
Stefan
PS: What do you think of proposing an additional BoF to
discuss the Babel Project and our next steps? I tried finding
on the eclipsecon web page how to do that, but couldn't find
anything.
On 05.11.2012 15:50, Denis Roy wrote:
Stefan,
Kit and I have given this type of talk in the past[1].
Having two (or three) speakers will definitely create a more
interesting dynamic.
There are essentially four topics I'd like to cover:
1. Introduction to Eclipse globalization (message files, how
it all works). You probably know more about this than I do,
but we can both share some slides.
2. The Babel server, the language packs, the pseudo
translations. This would be my area.
3. The messages editor, TapiJi. This would be your area
4. The Future of Babel @ Eclipse. Here we could briefly
talk about the possibilities of linking the messages editor
to the server, the future of the plugins, etc.
This is the slide deck of a talk that Kit gave in 2008. We
can likely recycle lots of the content and update it for
2013.
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/sub/attachments/Introduction_to_the_Eclipse_Babel_Project.ppt
Also, these two abstracts can likely serve as a starting
point for our abstract:
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=269
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/sessions?id=504
Stefan, if you want, I can draft up the abstract and post it
here for your edits. Then I (or yourself) can submit the
talk. Does that seem ok?
Kit, will you be joining us at ECon in Boston?
Denis
[1] I don't think I'll ever forget Nigel Westbury's funny
response: "We can mail you the translations on a diskette"
to someone who asked how to contribute without an Internet
connection.
On 11/03/2012 01:52 PM, Stefan Strobl wrote:
Denis,
we would be definitely be interested in doing a joint talk
with you on Babel and getting the news out to the
community about the progress in the Babel plugins area.
From a current perspective I should be able to attend
Eclipse Con 2013 in March and I am fairly sure that Martin
would like to join as well ;)
I think we could talk both about the new features and
enhancements of the babel plugins, the general direction
where we see it moving and some ideas and/or concepts of
general translation work (e.g. how to better support
translator - developer colaboration).
Anyway, how do you want to proceed from here? Do you want
to go straight at the required abstract or should we first
start with a general outline of the talk and then condense
it into the abstract later?
Thanks,
Stefan
On 01.11.2012 14:01, Denis Roy wrote:
Greetings,
I was thinking of proposing a Babel talk at EclipseCon
2013, in March. My talk would have focused on the
server and community translations, but it would be much
more interesting if I could have one or two co-speakers
to talk about the plugins and about globalization
techniques at a general level.
Is anyone interested in joining me for a Babel talk @
EclipseCon?
Thanks
Denis
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