Re: [babel-dev] Babel @ EclipseCon

[Stefan Strobl <stefan.strobl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Denis,

sorry for the late reply... Concerning the topics: in 1 i would like to 
extend beyond the scope of Eclipse globalization, as TapiJI (and now the 
Babel plugins) clearly go beyond. Maybe we can also talk a litte about 
common problems when developing internationalised software etc... In 
addition, what do you think about doing a short (5 min) live demo of 
some of the new plugin features?

* Here's some of the slides we used for a demo camp presentation in late 
2010 (we also did a talk in 2011, but i think we do not have the slides 
online. I'll see that I can get them to you)
http://de.slideshare.net/martinreiterer/tapiji-am-eclipse-democamp

* A Demo Video we have done for our (declined) EclipseCon 2012 submission:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gDQeeIR5eU

* We are currently working on two DemoCamp presentations (Vienna and 
Copenhagen). I am quite sure we can reuse some of our content from there.

Anyway, if you could do a first draft of the abstract, that would be great.

thank you
Stefan
PS: What do you think of proposing an additional BoF to discuss the 
Babel Project and our next steps? I tried finding on the eclipsecon web 
page how to do that, but couldn't find anything.

On 05.11.2012 15:50, Denis Roy wrote:
> Stefan,
>
> Kit and I have given this type of talk in the past[1].  Having two (or 
> three) speakers will definitely create a more interesting dynamic.
>
> There are essentially four topics I'd like to cover:
>
> 1. Introduction to Eclipse globalization (message files, how it all 
> works).  You probably know more about this than I do, but we can both 
> share some slides.
>
> 2. The Babel server, the language packs, the pseudo translations. This 
> would be my area.
>
> 3. The messages editor, TapiJi.  This would be your area
>
> 4. The Future of Babel @ Eclipse.  Here we could briefly talk about 
> the possibilities of linking the messages editor to the server, the 
> future of the plugins, etc.
>
>
> This is the slide deck of a talk that Kit gave in 2008.  We can likely 
> recycle lots of the content and update it for 2013.
>
> http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/sub/attachments/Introduction_to_the_Eclipse_Babel_Project.ppt 
>
>
> Also, these two abstracts can likely serve as a starting point for our 
> abstract:
> http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=269
> http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/sessions?id=504
>
> Stefan, if you want, I can draft up the abstract and post it here for 
> your edits.  Then I (or yourself) can submit the talk.  Does that seem 
> ok?
>
> Kit, will you be joining us at ECon in Boston?
>
> Denis
>
>
> [1] I don't think I'll ever forget Nigel Westbury's funny response: 
> "We can mail you the translations on a diskette" to someone who asked 
> how to contribute without an Internet connection.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/03/2012 01:52 PM, Stefan Strobl wrote:
> > Denis,
> >
> > we would be definitely be interested in doing a joint talk with you 
> > on Babel and getting the news out to the community about the progress 
> > in the Babel plugins area. From a current perspective I should be 
> > able to attend Eclipse Con 2013 in March and I am fairly sure that 
> > Martin would like to join as well ;)
> >
> > I think we could talk both about the new features and enhancements of 
> > the babel plugins, the general direction where we see it moving and 
> > some ideas and/or concepts of general translation work (e.g. how to 
> > better support translator - developer colaboration).
> >
> > Anyway, how do you want to proceed from here? Do you want to go 
> > straight at the required abstract or should we first start with a 
> > general outline of the talk and then condense it into the abstract 
> > later?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stefan
> >
> > On 01.11.2012 14:01, Denis Roy wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I was thinking of proposing a Babel talk at EclipseCon 2013, in 
> > > March.  My talk would have focused on the server and community 
> > > translations, but it would be much more interesting if I could have 
> > > one or two co-speakers to talk about the plugins and about 
> > > globalization techniques at a general level.
> > >
> > > Is anyone interested in joining me for a Babel talk @ EclipseCon?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Denis 
>
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